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Subject: Senator Reid . . .
Well, the Republicans "Daschled Daschle," that is why they
keep throwing this up to the Democrats. I myself sent many BuzzFlash
cards to Democrats asking them to "fire" Daschle a long time
ago. If Daschle had separated himself from the Republicans, he would
have stood out of the crowd, but he followed the Republicans around
trying to please them. How many time does this have to happen before
these people in the DC bubble get it?
The threat of being "Daschled" should be coming from the grassroots,
because from what I've read, Reid is a carbon copy of Daschle and we
don't need anyone else kissing Bush's ass and bringing him coffee in
This is so damn maddening and frustrating. If these Democrats would
only behave like Democrats, and if they can't, then join the goddamn
Republican Party and work their ass for them instead of crippling the
Democratic Party. I can hear Bush laughing, snorting, and sneering every
time a Democrat sucks up to him. Anyone who doesn't understand what
this administration has done already to this nation should get the hell
out of the Democratic Party.
We cannot aid and abet any Party who lied this nation into a war and
is responsible for over 100,000 deaths . . . and that is just the beginning
of what this criminal administration has done. If these Democrats can't
stand the heat, then they should lay down and quit.
Just an opinion,
Subject: Re: Farrell's Election
Angst Update: Clark Kent Vs the Media Wimps
Another breath of fresh air and honesty in reporting about the media's
dismissive response to the voting anomalies/fraud stories.
Thanks to Maureen Farrell for highlighting Olbermann's simple, humble
reporting of the election anomalies, as well as Chris Matthews', Peter
Jennings' and others' arrogant refusal to learn of it. I once read righteous
indignation was a necessary component of a good reporter's personality.
Must have been the old days.
Wish BuzzFlash.com arrived in my email daily, as it once did, to easily
catch Farrell's articles regularly, but have been deprived of this pleasure
after trying many times and ways. This article arrived via MediaChannel.org's
Media Savvy. Could be the new Spyware I'm using?
In the event that the balls in America are only good to decorate Christmas
trees, there is a two year span for the next election...we should all
let those seeking a political office that there is no way in hell we
would bother to go to the booth UNLESS we get a numbered receipt. That
we will not even contribute Monopoly money for their campaign...maybe
that will work.
America please, please, please WAKE UP before it's too late.
Subject: Bush's Open Fly
In the photo of pResident Dufus and world leaders...Bush's fly is clearly
opened...with white shorts on display. His fundamentalist followers
will see this as the mark of god's purity, a stigmata of the Virgin,
a sign of the Rapture, or some other such nonsense rather than the fact
that their monkey doesn't have the brains to check his zipper before
an important photo op. Par for the "coarse" from the family
that, literally, throws up on world leaders.
Subject: No Subject
let us learn from the Ukrainian people.... amass people to protest our
recent election...get the word out for apathetic americans to assemble
outside the whitehouse, and refuse to leave until the election is properly
verified. until people like Bev Harris can tell us that Kerry flat out
lost- because the exit polls - the very thing that the Ukrainian people
use as evidence- did not have Bush winning Ohio.
Subject: election fraud
Sen Richard Lugar denounced "a concerted and forceful program of
election-day fraud and abuse" and called on leaders "to review
all of this and take decisive action in the best interests of the country."
Right on, Senator! Oh wait, he was talking about the Ukraine. Sure sounds
like the US to me.
A BuzzFlash Reader
Subject: Ohio article
I just read the article from your site where an election official said
challengers might be subject to prosecution for making frivolous claims.
The dispute was in Lake County. Isn't that the county where bogus letters
went out to registered voters telling them that if ACT, Kerry and other
Democratic groups registered them, then their registrations were illegal?
You had the letter linked on your site.
If so, maybe you should do a repost next to the article? Here's the
link to the article I'm referring to: http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?newsidnews...
Subject: Compare Bush to Clinton!
How can Bush be a "statesman" or a "dignitary" when
he chickens out of city tours, out of state dinners and out of addressing
Parliaments? What a stark difference JUST IN THIS, between Clinton and
Some leader! Holed up in a colonial stronghold guarded by 15,000 troops,
and battleships and submarines and warplanes! Searching a poor ice cream
vendor three times and then STILL cowering inside, afraid to tour the
town! Skipping a state dinner, why? Afraid some knife-thrower would
disguise himself as a waiter? Be sure to ask ALL your Republican friends
if they are proud of being "represented" this way.
Deploys 15,000 Troops for Bush (AP/Yahoo)
Subject: Shane Kielion
What a sad day today, the day before Thanksgiving, Cpl Shane Kielion
was buried after losing his life in Iraq, where he died Nov. 15th.
The day he died, his son Shane Kielion Jr was born.
I think to myself what a waste. People that lined the route from the
church to the cemetery commented on what a nice person he was, and that
he died for our freedom. ..... Our Freedom??? I don't get it. Yes, he
paid the ultimate sacrifice with his life, but he died in a war not
for OUR freedom, but a war based on lies! Sure, we can stand and wave
our flags, but that doesn't change the fact that this pResident and
voted for Bush now have the blood on their hands of all who have died
in this horrible war.
I sympathize with all who have lost a son, daughter, father, mother,
friend in Iraq, and even though I will never know the pain that they
suffer, my heart is heavy in wondering how many more will lose their
lives not based on OUR freedom, but on the whims of a moron who never
had to fight for anything!
They say 'what goes around, comes around.' One day, he might suffer,
too. I only hope God will keep those who are still in Iraq in HIS care,
and guide them safely home to their families.
A Loyal Buzz Fan Forever!
Subject: Some important facts about the 2004 election
1. Based on the full set of the 4 p.m. election day exit poll data,
Dr. Stephen F. Freeman from the University of Pennsylvania calculated
that "the odds of just three of the major swing states, Florida,
Ohio and Pennsylvania all swinging as far as they did against their
respective exit polls were 250 million to one."
2. The University of California's Berkeley Quantitative Methods Research
Team released a statistical study - the sole method available to monitor
the accuracy of e-voting -reporting irregularities associated with
electronic voting machines may have awarded 130,000 to 260,000 or more
excess votes to President Bush in Florida. The official tally shows
Bush with 380,978 more votes than Kerry. The three counties where the
voting anomalies were most prevalent were also the most heavily Democratic:
Broward, Palm Beach
and Miami-Dade, respectively. The study shows an unexplained discrepancy
between votes for President Bush in counties where electronic voting
machines were used versus counties using traditional voting methods,
what the team says can be deemed a "smoke alarm." The probability
of this arising by
chance, they say, is less than 0.1 percent.
3. Pursuant to a request by independent presidential candidate Ralph
Nader, votes in some New Hampshire towns are being recounted. An analysis
showed wide differences in voting trends between the 2000 and 2004 elections:
about three quarters of precincts with severe changes used Diebold optical
4. John Zogby, president of the polling firm Zogby International, is
concerned about the difference between some of the exit polls and the
official vote counts. "We're talking about the Free World here,"
told the Inter Press Service News Agency. "Something is definitely
5. All the electronic voting errors benefited Bush. None benefited Kerry.
And all the exit poll data shifted in Bush’s favor, none to Kerry’s:
New Hampshire: Exit polls: Kerry by 10, Result: Kerry by 1. Bush gains
Iowa: Exit polls: Kerry by 1-2, Result: Bush by 2. Bush gains 3-4 points
Wisconsin: Exit polls: Kerry by 5, Result: Kerry by 1. Bush gains 4
New Mexico: Exit polls: Kerry by 1-2, Result: Bush by 1. Bush gains
Michigan: Exit polls: Kerry by 4-6, Result: Kerry by 1. Bush gains
Minnesota: Exit polls: Kerry by 6-8, Result: Kerry by 3. Bush gains
West Virginia: Exit polls: Bush by 9, Result: Bush by 13. Bush gains
Nevada: Exit polls: Kerry by 1, Result: Bush by 3. Bush gains 4 points
Pennsylvania: Exit polls: Kerry by 7 Result: Kerry by 2. Bush gains
Ohio: Exit polls: Kerry by 4, Result: Bush by 2. Bush gains 6 points
North Carolina: Exit polls: Bush by 4 Result: Bush by 8. Bush gains
Florida: Exit polls: Kerry by 2, Result: Bush by 5. Bush gains 7 points
This is not conspiracy; this is fact. By ignoring these problems,
by casting aside the deeper nature of our election in favor of gross
inadequacies and half-truths, you have decided to turn your back on
democracy. I’m afraid history will not remember you well.
Basking Ridge, NJ
Subject: A Stolen Election; and 50,000 more troops to Iraq
Three weeks after the election and the news gets more devastating by
the hour. Good thing we have BuzzFlash. The 11/23 Mailbag is full of
great ideas to demand media coverage of the stolen election 2004. We
should make this issue our collective priority in the twenty days until
the Electoral College votes on Monday, December 13. We should follow
the advice of R. Levin from St. Louis who asks us all to contact our
local newspapers & the NY Times and tell them we will immediately
cancel our subscriptions if they continue to ignore the election fraud
This is a brilliant idea. We can force the media to cover this story.
If we don't, we can kiss our democracy goodbye. Tell everyone you know,
and then cancel your paper.
We must also take immediate action to stop Bush's War. McCain says
we need 50,000 more troops in Iraq. Who among us does not think this
is part of Bush's master plan? We must stop the Bush Cartel from
escalating this disastrous war with more American troops. Think of ways
to make this happen and spread the word through the BuzzFlash Mailbag.
Best wishes to all.
Subject: my religion has also been hi-jacked
It always seems to me that the right-wingers (republicans) in the US
are very ironic....
They are religious (Christians, supposedly). But they are also Darwinists
because they believe the poor
deserve their fate since they are lazy. Even though it is clearly written
in the Bible that Jesus explicitly rejected power and riches of this
world to suffer the life of a poor and weak person (Luke
In many ways, these right-wingers have created a new religion in their
own heads where Jesus is American,
owns a gun, invariably a republican, and drives a SUV (probably has
a million dollar mansion in Texas with a
baseball team too).
The unholy alliance of US power (economic + military) with this new
brand of religion is actually what Christ rejected. Jesus wasn't interested
in these material worldly things, He was/is here on earth to save people...people's
I think the right-wingers are just plain scared: While on earth, they
become very greedy because of their Darwinist views, hoarding money
or use whatever means (including wars) to sustain their lifestyle of
At the same time, they are afraid the fires of hell and want to be in
Heaven when they pass from this
world--but their sin is for not being merciful to the poor and the less
If Jesus were on earth today and says what He says in the Bible, the
republicans would nail Him to the
"For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil" (1
"For all who draw the sword shall die by the sword" (Matt
"Not everyone who says to me 'Lord, Lord' will enter the kingdom
of heaven" (Matt 7:21)
"it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than
for a rich man to enter the kingdom of
God" (Matt 19:24)
"Blessed are the peacemakers for for they shall be called sons
of God" (Matt 5:9)
"Blessed are the meek for they shall inherit the earth" (Matt
Subject: That a memo is forged does not necessarily prove that
its contents is false
As computer programmers we spend a fair amount of time “debugging” code,
i.e. stepping through the fine points of a process in order to get it
to actually work. Logical analysis requires testing assumptions and
teasing out the fine differences between what you think might happen
or should happen from what actually happens. This view point of “set
theory,” or “proven math” sometimes enables me to spot glaring flaws
where others seem able to blithely sail past unconcerned. Sometimes
it even helps me spot and appreciate quite masterful deceptions.
That a memo is forged does not necessarily prove that its contents is
false. Complicated, obscure, but ultimately true, and an example of
the kind of assumption that can get you in trouble while stepping through
programming logic. Obviously, it seems to make sense that if a memo
is forged its contents should be false. Why else would someone bother
to forge a memo? Why would someone forge a memo the contents of which
Perhaps the answer to why someone would forge a memo whose content is
true lies in the statement that it is natural to assume that if a memo
is forged its contents must be false. If you wanted to discredit a true
fact, print it in a memo which can be shown to be forged. Technically
speaking, the corollary, or equally true inverse of the statement, “If
a memo is forged one naturally would assume its contents is false” is:
“therefore if you want to discredit a true statement place it in a forged
The vast majority of the viewing public can be expected to fall for
such a ploy at face value and not carry the chain of reasoning required
to uncover any possible layers of complication any further. The only
telltale clue that something might be amiss is the pesky detail that
the contents of the forged memo does happen to be true. That minor little
exception forces a very few to carry this to the next level.
Here it gets even more convoluted. An explanation is required for the
paradox of a forged memo whose content appears to be true. This is where
one’s a priori pre-determined political views can lead people to opposite
conclusions. Some will assume that whoever forged the memo had to be
so desperate to obtain physical documentation of what they suspected
to be true but were otherwise unable to prove that they would create
a false memo in order to obtain tangible although fake evidence. Others
will see this explanation as a bit of a reach and site the argument
noted above and suspect that someone was attempting to take advantage
of the logical assumption that a memo shown to be forged should therefore
contain false information and thus was attempting to discredit the truth.
One of the laws of logical analysis is called Oscam’s Razor, which states
that the more convoluted the explanation, the less likely that it is
correct. It may seem intuitive that whoever forged the memo, if the
contents of the memo are damaging to someone, must be trying to discredit
that person. But a quick count of the number of flips of logic required
for that intuition begins to reveal how cumbersome it really is. It’s
intuitive to assume that planets all circle around the earth, but graphing
out a Ptolemaic sky chart requires numerous wheels within wheels. For
those who can see it, the simple explanation shines through like when
one of those hidden pattern pictures comes into focus. And there is
a certain elegant beauty in such a deception. One almost has to have
an Oceans Eleven kind of respect for its suave cat burglar quality.
Admittedly, the ability to ferret out such a devious plot is almost
embarrassing in itself because it implies the capacity to imagine such
diabolical intent. But figuring out the con and actually committing
the crime are still two separate acts. Who would be so devious to actually
create such a memo?
Who could be so ruthless to stoop so low? Perpetrating such a deceit
would be like exposing an undercover CIA operator just to extract revenge
on her husband. It would be like announcing you discovered a listening
device in your office and not mentioning that it was later found not
to be leading anywhere. It would be like suggesting that someone who
adopted a child from India had fathered a negro baby out of wedlock.
It would be like starting a whispering campaign that a grandmother is
a lesbian… And creating the counterfeit memo is just a small part of
the beauty of this scam. Think how artfully it was marketed, so that
if one media outlet didn’t rush it out quickly enough they feared another
would scoop them, and then in the same news cycle to have all the other
media outlets reporting anonymous blog websites questioning the authenticity.
You’ve got to admire on a purely technical level the execution. Dan
Rather had survived many a mighty storm, but this time he’s met his
Subject: republican congressman peter king(NY) on election day
Republican congressman peter king(NY) on election day
King: "It's already over. The election's over. We won."
off-camera Reporter: "How do you know that?"
King: "It's all over but the counting. And we'll take care of
Here's that video:Watch
this footage of Republican Congressman Peter King Predicting the Outcome!
King's website: http://www.house.gov/king/
Subject: exit polls funded in the Ukraine by the United States
"The Yanukovych campaign said the exit polls, which were funded
in the Ukraine by the United States and other Western countries, and
the demonstration were a calculated effort to preempt the official result
Vote Results Show a Tight Race In Ukraine Runoff (Washington
That may very well be true. The US also funded the wildly inaccurate
exit polls in Venezuela that showed Chaves losing 2-1 as well. The money
usually is funneled by congress to the Republican Institute... which
also had a hand in the mischief in Haiti.
A BuzzFlash Reader
Subject: to the un and the media
since our government won't recognize the winner in the ukrainian election
because they say there was fraud...................
then why do other countries have to recognize ours as legitimate? we
know there was rampant fraud here and no paper trail in many places!
Subject: right wing "don't hire a Democrat" spiel
A good friend told me that he had heard on some ultra-conservative talk
show - he didn't leave it on very long and didn't identify the host,
although it would undoubtedly be a prominent mouth, since the air time
was around 12:30 CST - that in the host's opinion, businesses shouldn't
even consider hiring Democrats, period. It was so banal he understandably
turned it off.
Now, I'm the last person who would say that this host shouldn't be
allowed to say such insane things - the First Amendment guarantees freedom
of speech and therefore gives any lunatic the right to rant as he or
she pleases. Never mind that this person and his listeners would probably
love to censor anything the left said and think they were being
fair and God sanctioned. However, thanks to that same amendment, I can
respond, at least for now, without fear of some CIA agent hauling me
in for questioning.
First, to even think that it's okay to discriminate against a person
based on their politics in a hiring situation is more proof of the hate
and intolerance the far right possesses, regardless of their denials
of such emotions and their claim to want to "unite" the country.
Unite, my ass. Good luck finding work yourself if almost half the workers
in the country were fired because they didn't vote for Generalissimo
Bush. And shame on anybody so brainwashed and gullible that they would
agree with such an obvious mental case. I feel there is a number of
Bush voters out there who didn't subscribe to the ultra-far right ideologies,
but were not impressed with Kerry who will not allow themselves to be
party to this extreme wing of the Republicans. Let's hope that the more
sensible Republicans out
there know when enough is enough, and I see some GOP lawmakers already
bucking up to the Bush cartel. Good for them.
In addition, the readers should also check out the superb novel from
Margaret Atwood "A Handmaid's Tale," which describes in frightening
detail what a nation totally immersed in religious fervor could be like.
It ain't pretty.
Subject: Ohio Recount Timeline
To win the 2004 election, the only hope for John Kerry is to win the
Ohio recount. The following 9 bulleted points spell out the web of Catch
22's that prevent the recount from taking place in a timely way. The
final point is the silver bullet -- trying to get Kerry himself to join
* The recount needs to be completed before the Electoral College votes
on Monday, December 13 to have an effect on the outcome.
* The slate of Democratic or Republican electors will be selected on
Monday, December 6. Even if Kerry wins the recount and it's completed
before December 13, if Republican electors are selected on December
6, they are not required to vote for him on December 13.
* The recount request cannot be received until the first round of voting
is certified. That will probably occur on Wednesday, December 1. (This
appears to be a delay tactic by the Republican Secretary of State. It
could be completed sooner, but probably will not.)
* After the recount request is officially received, it takes 5 days
for the recount to begin. That brings us to December 6. (This could
be expedited, but probably will not.)
* The recount then takes (up to) 10 days. That can take until December
16, three days after the Electoral College has already voted.
* The Green and Libertarian Party candidates have requested a recount.
They understand that the recount must begin by Thursday, December 2
for it to be completed before the electoral college votes, and it [would
have had to] begin by Sunday November 26 for it to be completed before
the slate of electors is chosen. So they took legal action requesting
that the recount begin asap.
* U.S. District Judge James Carr on Tuesday (11/23) denied their request,
saying that since these twp candidates do not have "even a remote
chance" of winning the recount, the parties will not be harmed
irreparably if the recount is not completed before the state's 20 electoral
votes are formally handed to President Bush on Dec. 13 when the Ohio
Electoral College meets.
* The only way to turn this around is if the spoiled (uncounted) and
provisional ballots swing the election to Kerry and if the recount occurs
in a timely way. For that to happen, it appears that Sen. John Kerry
needs to join the Green/Libertarian legal action, so that the courts
cannot deny "irreparable harm" if the recount is not completed
* Kerry is obviously thinking about his 2008 Presidential candidacy
and doesn't want to look stupid in the eyes of his centrist base. How
can he be convinced in the coming hours and days to sign on to this
legal action without feeling like he's joined the marginalized progressives?
Subject: One Gulp
I read on APJ that Bush said "one gulp and we are gone." That
was at the Clinton Library ceremony. Question - is a gulp the same thing
as a Chug-a-lug?
Subject: Billy Graham denies "turnaround" meeting with
Bush took place
Thank's kinda hoa I'm reading it--what do you think?
Friday night at the Rose Bowl, more than 2,000 people came forward
accept Rev. Graham's invitation to turn over their lives to Jesus
That's something the current president says he did during a now-famous
talk with Billy Graham, at a time when drinking and carousing
threatened to lead George W. Bush astray. It’s an encounter that gets
an interesting reaction when Rev. Graham is asked about it now.
"I've heard others say that, and people have written it, but
say that," he says. "I was with him and I used to teach
the Bible at
Kennebunkport to the Bush family when he was a younger man, but I
feel that I in any way turned his life around."
Rev. Billy Graham, still
crusading at 86 (msnbc)
[BuzzFlash Note: Yep, it sounds like "myth-making" spin to
Subject: Hypocrite of the week
I would like to nominate Laura Bush as the BUZZFLASH HYPOCRITE OF THE
WEEK for her quote in the USA news(sic)paper on Wednesday the 24th.
I am especially thankful for the brave men and women of the United
States armed forces who, throughout our country's history, have sacrificed
so much to safeguard our freedoms and share them with others.
To Laura I say, "Don't forget to say thanks to your husband who
dodged service by getting into the easiest unit of the national Guard
and then went AWOL (or deserted depending how you look at it)."
I hope that, however you mark the holiday, you will stop to celebrate
the gift of life and give thanks for living in America.
Go over to Iraq and try to celebrate the gift of life there. Thanks
to your deserting husband, over an estimated 100,000 Iraqis will not
be able to celebrate life.
CWC (Concerned World Citizen)
Subject: woman journalists
This note is to thank you for trying to keep us informed and sane during
this trying times, and at the same time congratulate and honor all the
woman journalists that appear to have more courage and dignity than
their male counterparts.
I salute Helen Thomas, Katrina van den Heuvel, Molly Ivins, Amy Goodman,
Maureen Dowd, Maureen Farrell, Norma Sherry...and of course, how can
we not mention our own, Barbara, in her daily minutes.
Women do ask the real hardball questions and are not afraid of the consequences...they
are a few that understand the importance of reporting the truth regardless
of how painful it could be and how to demand some accountability. God
bless them all.
Subject: Yale and Bush and Me
I'm sitting here on Thanksgiving, still wondering how things have gone
so horrendously wrong in this country that I love. I mean, I went to
school with these assholes -- the John Ashcrofts, the Dick Cheneys,
the George W. Bushes. They were Bozos then and they're bozos now, but
incredibly, these bozos are in power.
I went to Yale on scholarship (my father sold tools in Pittsburgh)
and I was the first in the family to go to college. I don't know about
Ashcroft and Cheney, but they may have been the beneficiaries of scholarships,
as well. Cheney certainly didn't do much with his, as he managed to
flunk out not once, but twice. A difficult stunt, even then.
Ashcroft did manage to graduate, but I don't recall, with much distinction.
Most of us thought that he was destined to lead an evangelical youth
camp, not lose to a dead man in a senatorial race. Or, needless to say,
become an attorney general bent on destroying our patriotic or constitutional
As for George W. Bush, the absolute only way that he ever got into
Yale was because his father and his grandfather before him graduated
from Yale. They may have deserved it. He certainly did not. This was
a true, verifiable case of affirmative action (which I know he is against),
as is, improbably, the also notably mediocre Clarence Thomas.
George W. Bush, unfortunately, will always be a mediocre mind. What
is truly tragic is that he is a terrible and stupid president.
Best wishes for our country,
Subject: Step aside, recuse yourself
If we are ever to have closure on the voter tabulation corruption in
Ohio, Florida, Pennsylvania and North Carolina (to name but a few of
the troubled spots), it is imperative that fair and impartial recounts
and investigations take place. I don't believe that's possible with
persons such as yourself calling the shots. You bring partisanship to
Please do the right thing and step aside lest you're forced to find
"the paper to be too thin" once again.
C. Robert Holloway, Senior, Veteran
New Orleans, LA, West Hollywood, CA
Subject: The Elections in the Ukraine
I'm a reader of your news on your web site and thanks for your reports
that are often very informative and help to understand the real stories
going on around the world and in the USA where I am from. But I have
to write you to say, I think you are getting the wrong idea about the
Ukraine. I am living in Sevastopol and I have been watching first hand
the beginning of these political events here. The western media in my
eyes, is trying to paint one picture - the picture that the white house
wants to promote and will promote at any cost - and it would be laughable
if it were not really happening - that while the white house cries foul
play in elections here in Ukraine, they won't let anyone investigate
the elections of 2004 in the US - now doesn't that tip you off to the
real intentions of the Madison avenue PR Campaign election am*Bush*
that's going on here?
The real story is that this is a very well programmed assault on the
elections here to interrupt and interfere and get the western backed
man (with fascist connections according to humanitarian groups from
Helsinki) Mr Yushenko into the office even if they have to resort to
any sort of "terrorist" intimidation tactics to do so...or
did we already forget who the real fox dressed up as the rooster sitting
in the hen house really is?
There is 8 trillion dollars in Caspian sea oil here and the long range
intention is to disrupt and usurp democracy in its infancy here in Ukraine
in order to divide the people of Ukraine against each other and most
importantly...from Russia. United we stand, divided we fall...and even
though the Russian backed Yunakovych is not great...the more important
issue is served -- to not allow the division of the eastern block countries
to be divided so that they can be dominated...not given democracy because
it is a pot of gold offered at the end of a rainbow that will never
happen by the people who promise it...never.
There are excellent journalistic reports here: Centre
for Research on Globalization.
I hope you will start getting better sources for your information before
it's once again too late.
Scalia is wrong on history as well
Your link to the Scalia story didn’t work for me, but I read it before.
Here’s a refutation of Scalia’s false claims that the “Founding Fathers”
had ANYTIHING to do with “in god we trust” or “under God” in the pledge.
Both came in times of war (civil war, and cold war respectively). Justice
Scalia's criticism of church/state separation is reported
says religion infuses U.S. government and history (Newsday)
he is said to suggest and argued
generally that a “religion-neutral government does not fit with an America
that reflects belief in God in everything from its money to its military.”
Scalia went on to cite authority
from the “Founding Fathers” including that “in God we trust”
is on our coins and money, and “Under God” in our pledge of allegiance
as evidence of Founder's intent.
is as wrong on history as he is on law. Somebody should please
tell this idiot of history named Scalia
that “In God we Trust” did not come along on our money at all
until the Civil War, and wasn't on all of it until the 50s. Check
out the official website of the US Mint if you have any further questions.
See question 39 at http://www.usmint.gov/faqs/index.cfm?action=FAQSearchResult
(not on all money until the 1950s). See
the Bureau of engraving to confirm http://www.moneyfactory.com/document.cfm/18/107
that it only started in force in the 1950s.
The first use of “In God we trust” was the civil war, not the revolutionary
war of the founding fathers. The letter referencing the first
request for this is reprinted in part at http://www.treas.gov/education/fact-sheets/currency/in-god-we-trust.shtml
addition, most people know by now that “under God” wasn't added to the
pledge of allegiance until the 1950s either. A utopian socialist
and Baptist preacher by the name of Francis Bellamy drafted the original
pledge of allegiance, and his granddaughter says Mr. Bellamy “would
have resented” the addition of “under God” made to his pledge of allegiance
that was made during the midst of the Red scare 1950s if Bellamy had
been around at that time, even though Francis Bellamy himself was a
Christian and a minister.
there are urban legend emails circulating among conservative circles
arguing that “in God We trust” was part of the founding fathers' work.
Perhaps Scalia is now on email?
R. Lehto, Attorney at Law
Subject: Ukrainian coverage
Thanks so much for all you do, but I want to offer an alternative perspective
on the Ukrainian election. Bad as the present Ukrainian government is,
a pro-Western government would be worse. As Colin Powell's interference
indicates, Bush & Co. prefer the side that will let them extend
their imperialist domain. It seems to me that the large demonstrations
there are not that different from those that occurred after Hugo Chavez
was re-elected in Venezuela, to Bush's chagrin.
i just saw bush on tv in reference to his feelings on the ukraine election
being fraudulent, bush said THE ONLY GOOD DEAL IS A VERIFIABLE DEAL.
um....does he know about our own fraudulent election and our machines
with no verifiable paper trail? or is that just for other countries?
Subject: Something that they say
One has to wonder with all the amazing statements coming from the Bush
administration about election fraud in the Ukraine just what is keeping
the democrats silent about our election fraud problem? I never thought
I would witness such a pathetic display of leadership from a group of
politicians claiming to care about our votes. Is Kerry really so concerned
about being hung with a sore loser label he will not state the obvious
about our election? Isn't there even ONE retiring lame duck politician
in Congress with the balls to say anything?
Do they not get it that they are rapidly losing their base for good?
After all, what use is a democratic party that will not stand up for
democracy? Those of us who grew up actually believing the stuff we learned
in school about truth and justice in our country are quickly learning
the sad lesson of despair and hopelessness as we see those ideals trampled
Yes we are out here alone, people, hung out to dry by the very same
leaders we worked
so hard to elect a few short weeks ago. I see now that our country is
in desperate need of the kind of change that cannot come from either
political party. They are truly a double edged sword intent upon slashing
our liberties one by one for the sake of corporate profit. With freedom
comes the duty to defend it. It is no less than what we have expected
from our soldiers fighting in foreign lands. Yet we sit by and watch
another election stolen under our watch while those new to democracy
in the Ukraine put us to shame defending what they have as if it were
a precious gift.
So when our leaders make speeches about freedom full of the catchy
phrases of a Madison avenue ad man. Remember it's not something that
they mean. It's just
something that they say.
A BuzzFlash Reader
[BuzzFlash Note: As our readers educate us, it's beginning to seem
that this U.S. administration is manipulating the elections on both
sides of the Atlantic, to suit their own purposes. Where does megalomania
end, and world domination begin?]
Subject: Look at what's going on on Dailykos!
My name is Art Pronin and I have the upmost respect for you and your
brave fight against the wrongs committed in this nation. I'm grateful
for your service to our nation. I am a 25 year old democratic party
activist. For the record, I'm also white and Jewish.
I was taught with certain "values." one was to stand up,
no matter how impossible the situation may be, and fight for against
major wrongs committed in our society. In conversation with African-American
political activists online and elsewhere, I have become quite angry
over the open intimidation and suppression of the black vote in Ohio
No, internet madmen didn't make this up up. It's on full public record
in the state of Ohio and is in hundreds of affidavits. Jesse Jackson
has now decided to act and call for a full accounting of the vote in
Ohio etc. He will hold a rally with other black leaders. But--all of
us democrats must now fight this wrong. That means with a full recount
of Ohio's votes
and separate litigation on voter suppression/intimidation which is against
the 14th amendment of the US Constitution. This requires your immediate
One of my online posts is now the front page of a major democratic
blog site--dailykos.com. The guy in charge has put my words on the front
for ALL democrats to debate. It's about the black vote and how so many
were suppressed and intimidated in the election in Ohio and elsewhere.
We need major financial help from the party to fight for our African-American
brothers and sisters who were deeply wronged on election day.
My name on the site is pronin2. Here is my post on how I and others
strongly feel. I hope everyone will urge the party to now take an open
public stand on this.
This post below has been submitted to other party figures, incl. Jesse
Jackson's camp. What is read below may not be pretty, but it is how
I and many other minorities feel about election 2000 and 2004. I shall
hope that this fight grows very quickly. Time is of the essence. I hope
this email is distributed to other members of congress so they know
how A LOT of us democrats feel.
Will one senator stand up this Jan 6 and challenge the election in
Ohio? I pray so. I pray this injustice will be rectified.
Subject: Pell grants Cut=Need to Join Military for College aid
The importance of your existing link on pell grants being cut (85,000
dropped, over a million reduced) is that it is the second form of the
backdoor draft: If you want to get any college aid from Uncle Sam, sign
up to go to Iraq!
Paul R. Lehto
Bush actually lose this election? Learned Professors & authentic
exit polls suggest that...
...yup, damn RIGHT he lost... The whole world is waiting for someone
with unimpeachable credentials to point out that there's an Elephant
In The Living Room, and it's enormous, and it's been stinking up the
joint for too long. OUT! OUT! Damned DUMBO!
In the Ukraine, election watchers, American politicians and even The
Sock Puppet hizzownself have suggested that exit polls don't jibe with
the results, ergo the Ukrainian election results should be (and ARE
being) challenged & investigated before the current "official"
results are confirmed... The Ukraine's legitimate newspeople and even
the government-controlled media have revolted, the latter stating they
can no longer be complicit in the dissemination of their *employer's
lies. (*read government)
In other words? Journalists in the Ukraine are now reporting THE TRUTH
about the rigged Ukrainian election. They are refusing to pump out politburo
spin like the good little minions they were for the past few days. Albeit
arriving late to the dance, these brave folks have chosen to come clean
with the people who DEPEND ON THEM to provide "FAIR AND BALANCED"
news to chew along with their nightly meal. (*are you reading this PBS,
WASHINGTON TIMES, ABC, NEW YORK TIMES, CBS, CHICAGO TRIBUNE, NBC, CNN,
FOX (oh puhhlleeease, Murdock's minions actually reading anything but
his memos??? What was I THINKING...! That's about as far-fetched as
BUSH reading, oh, except for that one story he read that time, something
about a kid's pet goat...)
But I digress. How about demanding that this accepted international
standard for tracking election results, and which safeguards against
vote diddling, be applied to the US election as well, so that the TRUE
MAJORITY of patriotic voters who flocked to the polls in unprecedented
numbers to do their damndest for America (*and the rest of the planet)
can revive their dying constitution and free a once strong democracy
which has been held hostage for 4 long years? It was hijacked by Bush
& Co in 2000 and has taken a daily beating ever since, but what
doesn't kill makes one stronger...
"It's not the people who vote that count, it's the people who count
the votes..." (*Attributed to Josef Stalin but recently debunked
at urbanlegend.com. I take NOTHING at face value, and nor should YOU.
MP in Vancouver
I just read at BuzzFlash your following column:
We have not begun to fight
If you can get past the despondent Democrats talking about moving to
Canada, the fight was on regardless.
I will like to suggest that Democrats stop saying "we lost the
election"...there is a big difference between losing an election
because of lack of votes in favor of your candidate than to lose an
election by irregularities in the process. I am an Independent, which
hopes for a strong third party, since the Democrats in power appear
to be as corrupt as the Republicans, I no longer feel that they do represent
the people but the corporate few. It is time that people start calling
the election fiasco, as another "stolen election," maybe then
your party will be able to obtain the support of the Independents. There
were many of us that were simply ABB and even tried our hardest to work
for Kerry's election...for what? so he could concede without checking
all the irregularities that were known the same night? Democrats should
take a hard look of why people are registering in great numbers as Independents...that
should really give them a hint that people are not happy with the party,
or at least, the current representation in Capitol Hill.
I just wish that Democrats could have the same courage the Ukrainian
people have. Where is the dignity and courage of the Democrats? This
is not my America the land of the free and the home of the brave.
A BuzzFlash Reader
Subject: Re Scalia
says religion infuses US government and history (AP/Newsday)
It is apparent that the separation of church and state is being eradicated,
and with more radical right-wing Republicans nominated to the USSC
in the next few years, it is evident they will succeed completely.
They will bring back the strict, religious lifestyles of the Puritans.
The Christian Right and Evangelicals will reign supreme over the land.
Everyone's tax dollars will support their religious charities and
Subject: I want a get a powerful boycott going
So many people I know have told me how they are unable to watch tv
news since the election. In fact, for myself it feels like a protest.
I'm hoping there will be a measurable ratings slip and they somehow
come to understand that their viewers hate the way they covered this
election and know what they did.
In that vein, I was thinking that one way to fight back would be expose
the many corporations run by huge conservative donors, pushing their
conservative agenda for their own financial gain, and then to hurt
them in their pocketbooks through boycotts. I am convinced that many
big conservative donors depend sometimes solely on their liberal democrat
customers for their healthy bottom line. I intend to find out in some
way which corporations are donating huge amounts of money to the republican
machine and if they make their millions off of liberal democrats (and
there are at least 55,000,000 of us). I intend to find some way to
expose them. I think the American people are hungry to find some way
to be heard and if putting large corporation republican donors on
notice that we're not going to support their conservative habits anymore...well
who knows what could happen?
I hope everyone had a great holiday.
Subject: Black Friday
The day after Thanksgiving, the two stories that dominated the mainstream
news were the contested election in the Ukraine and the first official
shopping day of Christmas. In the first story, tens of thousands of
Ukrainians from all over the country stood outside in five-degree
weather for days and nights to protest voting irregularities that
reached a level of fraudulence that made the official results illegitimate
in their and the world’s eyes. These irregularities are, in fact,
the very same ones we in the US experienced on November 2, 2000 and
2004. Exit polls did not match outcomes, there were not enough voting
machines, people had to stand in line for hours in order to cast a
vote. Even the police walked away from their orders to stand against
the protestors, and joined with them to demonstrate for a clean election.
In the second story, tens of thousands of Americans braved chilly
temperatures in the dark of night to be the first in line for bargain
prices. The images on the small screen were of overfed, boorish consumers
charging over each other through the stores. On the day before, they
of course did the patriotic thing and overindulged in Thanksgiving
dinner and football. Election problems reaching the level of fraud,
atrocities committed against civilian populations in Iraq, the systematic
destruction of checks and balances in government, the remaking of
our security apparatus into an agency with first loyalty to the illegitimate
president--absolutely none of these things were on the radar. Only
two people in the media, Keith Olbermann of MSNBC and Randi Rhodes
of Air America Radio, have taken up the cause of election fraud.
The news readers called the day "Black Friday," the day
that would put retailers in the black on their balance sheets and
make up for lagging sales all the rest of the year. As my daughter
and I watched these two stories unfold on BBC World News last night,
her reaction to the first story was, "Go, Ukrainians!" To
the second, in which people were being trampled in a store on their
way to the toy department, "That’s just embarrassing."
The story that really got my attention, though, was the one about
the billboard on I-4, just outside Orlando. It’s a picture of W with
only two words: Our Leader. Translated into German, they would read
Black Friday, indeed.
Subject: thank you thank you thank you
After Stealing Two Elections, Bush Stands up for Democracy in the
Ukraine. For the Republicans, Democracy is Only for Other Countries.
People aren't talking about this...they've resigned themselves to
"Bush was going to win Bush Won." There HAS to be proof
of fraud with hacking the tabulating machines [Windoze machines]...doesn't
even have to be a conspiracy....and this SHOULD happen before he is
sworn in. I can just hope.
It's so outrageous that he lost the first election and then has the
power of being an incumbent.
WHY is the Ukraine more circumspect than the US?
Thanks for saying it.
Subject: Fox News as a "News Source"
I noted that at the bottom of your web page that you list Fox News
as a "news source." Come on!!! You should list it as a right-wing
propaganda source, a disinformation source or better still not list
it at all, but you should NEVER list it as a news source. You are
furthering their lie of pretending to deliver news. Come on - wake
up and change the title!!!!
This leads to the next idea that Democrats can help to put an end
to the pretense of Fox being "fair and balanced" - if when
approached by Fox for interviews, statements appearances etc. the
Democrat would simply state "I'm sorry, but I only provide interviews
to legitimate news organizations," we could reign in these nincompoops
We are feeding the hand that bites us - or something like that. End
the propaganda - call it for what it is.
[BuzzFlash Note: We're taking your suggestion under advisement. Why
dignify what they do?]
Subject: CNN ticker story
Just now the ticker across the bottom of the CNN screen said something
like a Texas program which gave college money to poor/needy college
students in Texas is being discontinued because it ran out of money,
according to the Austin Statesman...I couldn't find the story but
I am not good at that, but if you can locate the story I think it
would be a good post, and is just such an ironic, horrible thing,
since we are spending 5 billion a month in Iraq and untold billions
to rebuild their school systems/buildings/community hospitals, etc.
[BuzzFlash Note: Was it about the Pell grant program? Congress
flunks Pell Grant test (ajc.com)
Subject: not in the headlines...(Letter to the editor Washington
The Price of Partisanship
I initially thought the Nov. 21 front-page story about the failure
of the House to pass the intelligence overhaul bill was a garden-variety
example of congressional gridlock. But deep in the article was a stunning
fact: The votes were there to pass the bill had it been brought to
the floor. The Republican House leadership, however, wanted to "find
votes to pass the bill without relying mainly on Democrats, a scenario
too embarrassing for Republicans to endure." When it became clear
that the bill could not pass without reliance on Democratic votes,
the House leadership "sidetracked" it.
This outcome is outrageous. Implementation of the recommendations
of the bipartisan Sept. 11 commission would be in the national interest,
not to mention in the interest of the safety of citizens. As a resident
of Arlington, which already has suffered a terrorist attack, safety
is not an inconsequential issue to me. The president supports the
rather than face the embarrassment of reaching across the aisle to
vote with like-minded Democrats, the House leadership delayed the
vote, perhaps dooming the measure in this Congress. Boy, I am sure
feeling protected now.
Susan N. Kelly
Subject: What's All of This Talk About Morality?
Morality? What's wrong with just being a good Human Being . . . one
who takes their responsibility about their place and the place of
others in the world while on this earth very seriously?
Again, the Republicans have been trying to intimidate the Democrats
because the Democrats don't flaunt their religion. To me, I grew up
in organized religion and that is fine for people who enjoy their
religion in this way. Nothing wrong in that. But, a person doesn't
have to belong to an organized religion to feel responsible and be
responsible for other human beings on this planet.
Democrats and their morality really have nothing to do with what is
going on in the world today. The Republicans boast that they won an
election (which I think was a fraud) based on their morality. Well,
it may be crass of me to say, but, I'm not that brain dead yet.
People try to change history, such as saying our Country was founded
upon Religion, which isn't true. Now, they try to change what the
word morality means.
"Morality," my dictionary says that the word means, principles
concerning the distinction between right and wrong or good and bad
behavior. A particular system of values." Now this is where people
get off the track about this word morality and values. This is where
it gets murky for some.
If it is the "morality" of these people that it's "okay"
that the Bush Administration lied us into a war that so far has killed
over 100,000 people and injured thousands more. Bombed their hospitals,
and food supply, ruined their water, and there is talk that the US
also has used poisonous gas and killed unarmed people, many who were
unarmed women and children. In other words, a Genocide. Not to discount
the benefits of living in a Country whose land has been saturated
with depleted uranium, that has already been the reason for thousands
of birth defects and disease in this Country since Bush the elder
had his war. Allowed all of their artifacts to be stolen, bombed and
pilfered their libraries and record buildings.
Lied about Saddam having anything to do with 911. To this date, the
Bush administration has captured not one of those responsible for
911. Then there are the abuses to the captured in Iraq and also in
Guantanamo where the Bush administration dragged people (Americans)
off the streets and incarcerated them without reason and failed to
allow them to notify anyone of their whereabouts. Ruined their careers
. . . caused suicides and deaths for no reason. And, because of the
Bush Administration, the American people are stuck with the largest
debt ever in this Country.
If morality means that we cut soldiers pay after they have been injured
and brought home or we cut the pay to their families while the soldiers
are in Iraq, send people who are 50 years of age and much older to
fight in an illegal war. If it means to prop up programs such as Clean
Air, No Child Left Behind, then deny funding, as well as cutting and
under funding in every other program for the US, including Homeland
Security. And after all of these things, run an election based on
the Republican Party's morality? There is no time to list all of what
has been done against humanity by the Bush administration and the
list could only be the things we know about.
No, you see the distinction is the word "values." Their
morality is based upon what they value. It has nothing to do with
what is the normal right and wrong.
Again, what, I am saying is, that a person doesn't have to belong
to any organized religion to be a good human being that respects the
life of all other human beings. It should be a responsibility in all
of us . . . a responsibility to care and create . . . not to destroy.
We are supposed to be a higher life form than the animals . . . and
even the animals don't annihilate species in order to rule them. We
usually incarcerate people who murder, steal, or even attempt to murder
or abuse for private gain.
Those are just some of the differences and so I will never join the
"Bush morality bunch," and I will never apologize for being
who I am, I would rather be just a plain, ordinary, human being who
respects the lives of all living things on this earth and the life
of our "living earth." This is something that is not being
done by the Bush Administration today and raving about their morality
isn't going to bring all of those dead people back . . . raving about
their morality isn't going to change the lives of those soldiers who
died before they lived and those soldiers who are so wounded that
they will spend the rest of their life in hospitals. Raving about
their morality isn't going to change the atmospheric changes taking
place on earth because of irresponsibility by the Bush Administration.
If those are the Values that we want to have in the US, then the morality
and values that are boasted by the Bush Administration will never
speak for me, and I also, question any organized religion that would
dare to preach those same values and use the word morality after knowing
what the Bush Administration has done around the world today. No,
it's not a question of Democrats and their morality . . . that is
just another scheme of propaganda and intimidation by the Bush Administration,
trying to get the Democrats to mimic the Republicans and start boasting
about their faith, so the Republicans can poke fun at them.
When will the Democrats ever learn to be proud of what it means to
be a Democrat? We are defenders of the US Constitution and we should
be the defenders of all life here on earth. Something to be proud
of . . . responsible human beings that respect the lives of others
in the world and their right to exist in equality with us and to respect
and care for our living planet. It could also be called, living in
a real Democracy!