August 24, 2004
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Subject: the ever-disappointing AP
Here's what I wrote in response to the current AP headline "Dole Questions Kerry's Vietnam Wounds":
Oh, I see, now you're taking the opinion of someone who didn't even fight in the Vietnam War (Dole is a WWII vet) and making it top headline news. You are too much. Bush's little media lapdogs.
Here's the truth once and for all (from an average American who fought in no war but who can see through all the bull the media apparently can't sort out):
1) Kerry was awarded three purple hearts, a silver star, and a bronze star by the Navy. HE DID NOT AWARD THESE TO HIMSELF. Who can blame him for leaving Vietnam after his third purple heart? Given everything he had been through during his short time in service, who can fault him for wanting to get the heck out? The man volunteered to go, went, served his country with bravery and valor, and left. End of story. The records are there. Check them.
2) George Bush avoided Vietnam (I believe he told The Houston Chronicle that joining the Texas Air National Guard was better than blowing his eardrum out) and didn't even fulfill his featherweight military obligations. The records are there. Check them.
3) Bob Dole is in no way objective or authoritative in speculating on Kerry's war wounds. Therefore, unlike McCain's or the other swift boat vets', his comments are NOT NEWSWORTHY!!!!
4) Whenever you cite Kerry's Congressional testimony during his Vietnam War protest period, be sure to cite it in context without lifting the most outrageous bits and pieces. To do otherwise is poor, poor, poor journalism (not that that's stopping you these days).
A BuzzFlash Reader
I'll bet the Pres. or other high ranking Republicans will visit Harlem during the week of the "no mention" convention. I call it the "no mention" convention, because I'm sure they wont be mentioning all of the Bush administrations failures.
But I bet the Pres. will show up at a famous black restaurant like SYLVIA'S or something for a photo shoot to make themselves look inclusive.
They want the "Bush comes to Harlem" headline...count on it. He'll be in and out before the people can get it together to protest.
A BuzzFlash Reader
Subject: BuzzFlash March 17th Kerry/Bush editorial rocks
Reference: BuzzFlash: Today's Top Headlines .. 8/22/04 !:50 AM which urges Kerry to define Bush now (yesterday, last year!!) before Bush defines Kerry!!!
That editorial says its all!! It is bare knuckles time for Kerry.
I regret that the editorial did not explicitly go public on how to accomplish this. But that would have given away the goods ... BuzzFlash folks pass it on to Kerry in guarded person-to-person a-b-c methods for his campaign to get it.
Surely Kerry strategists you MUST have a clue by now to answer this skullduggery or be prepared to lose your way.
I see something to the effect that the Kerry campaign is suing the Bush administration for complicity. Well, great ... maybe, but that is too abstract and subtle for too many men/women voters in the street, I fear. Too much more nicety, although pursue what you must on all and every avenue.
But what about a more frontal attack. You said it Senator Kerry, " it is time to turn the boat into the hill and fight back" for your political life and the political survival of the world through the United States.
I don't pretend to have the answers, but to suggest you and the whole Democratic establishment, go ferocious, guttural and banal in kind with equal enjoyment that you are slaying a lethal virus/animal, as they much as they dish it to you and yours!! I appreciate the money advantage they have, but match that with guile and cleverness in kind.
Harken to that BuzzFlash editorial and warnings. Gore, Senator McCain and sorry, the Georgia senator, have had their political bones bleached and left bare in the sands of time.
REALLY, GO KERRY-BUNGA ON THEM AS IF YOUR LIFE HAS ALREADY BEEN ATTACKED AT THE KNEES, OR HEART!!!
Subject: it's official: Ed Koch is off his nut
He disagrees with Bush on everything except Iraq--an invasion that has been proven to be based on a sham. His upset with Kerry over gay marriage? Who has proposed a constitutional amendment against it???
At a time like this, one has to ask: What do they have on him?--Liz
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Subject: Kerry a hero, Bush a zero!
If someone conducted a poll which clearly demonstrated that the scurrilous ads against John Kerry by the not-so-swift-vets were hurting George Bush, how long do you think they'd remain on the air? My guess is they'd be history in a heartbeat. Sadly, they're hurting John Kerry among some voters, primarily those with more hate in their hearts than brains in their head. And since our pathetic excuse for a pResident is sorely lacking in character, you can bet the ads will continue to pollute the political climate until he's milked every last vote out of the gutter. It makes me sick and I felt even sicker when I heard Bob Dole condoning the ads. Jeez, I wonder why I'm feeling so embarrassed for my country. I never thought I'd see the day when a genuine war hero is maligned while a draft dodging, coke-snorting lush reaps the political benefits. What will American's be doing next? Eating their young?
I did read something today that almost cheered me up. There's no Buzz mailbag on the weekends so I frequently dive into Slate's "Fray" to satisfy my cravings for political dialogue. There were some pretty heated exchanges this weekend. Pro Kerry posters definitely outnumbered the Bushies and one of them ended his post with "Kerry a hero, Bush a zero" or something like that. I do like the sound of it. It's one of those easy breezy slogans I enjoy repeating. My favorite is Randi Rhodes' "Kerry in a landslide". By the way, you know how many of us are always commenting that Kerry has to win big so the repugs can't steal another election? Well, some dumb-ass repug has written a book twisting our idea. He says Bush must win in a landslide or everyone will accuse him of stealing another election. Could it be that the repugs are feeling a bit paranoid? Or is it just American politics validating the immortal words and wisdom of Mark Twain? "When we realize the whole world is crazy, then everything else makes sense."
I just read your editorial about Bush remaining in that classroom and suggesting that by so doing he was endangering the children's lives. I have to tell you, though, that what struck me even more is this. wouldn't the secret service, under standard procedure, have moved to immediately escort Bush to wherever it is they escort the president to in a time of a national emergency, such as our country being under attack? Wasn't the White House evacuated immediately? Did they whisper in Laura's ear too and wait for her to give them instructions? Did they whisper in Cheney's ear and then wait for his instructions? Somehow I don't think that's how it went.
Do you really mean to tell me that there is no procedure in place? That some aid whispers in his ear and then they all sit around and twiddle their thumbs while he reads "My Pet Goat?
Even if Bush himself had to "collect his thoughts", wouldn't he be doing this as he was being led by security procedures, standard procedures, or whatever it is that happens in a situation like this?
Anyway, I think you get my point. Of course, this could only lead to one reason as to why that didn't happen.......he knew.
A BuzzFlash Reader
Subject: Kerry just lost the election
You realize that Kerry has just been successfully Willie Hortoned, and that he has just been successfully slimed with the same goo that's still dripping off John McCain? When I say "successfully," I'm saying this election is suddenly lost. When we all said way back when that the Republicans were going to play dirty, Kerry didn't get it. Instead of immediately launching a counter attack at the first Swift Boat ad, he sat there for a couple of weeks brooding, (like Bush in the elementary school), letting the issue really dig in. Then he tried to fight his way out of the bag with what...the truth?
A lot of good that did Michael Dukakis. A lot of good that did John McCain. And Kerry just lost the election because he now has two battles to fight, instead of just one. What the @#$% is it with Democrats anyway, that they don't see that they are in a street battle, and they have to play by street rules. Kerry has been "Swift Boated," and he will spend the rest of the campaign in recovery mode. Dead meat. Perhaps he'll get a fourth purple heart for being trounced in 2004.
Maybe by 2008 Democrats will learn how to fight in the streets, by street rules--that is--if they're still holding elections. Here you're all thinking that Bush developed his preemptive war strategy around Iraq. No dears, Bush launched his first pre-emptive strike on John McCain. It's what his daddy taught him in dealing with Dukakis.
Pissed and disappointed, but not nearly as wounded as John Kerry,
Subject: Dole on Kerry
Bob Dole has recently suggested that John Kerry apologize for testifying to atrocities committed during his time in Vietnam. A fringe group, funded by conservatives with close ties to the Bush campaign, makes a similar suggestion in a new ad. This argument is akin to a call for a drastic weakening of American power. American world power has been hard fought for and won on battlefields around the world. However, the greatest American power is its moral authority. America and the world watched in horror recently as much of that power was drained by the torture and killing that took place under our watch at Abu Ghraib. Whatever victory we may achieve in Iraq may not counterweigh the damage done to American power, particularly in the eyes of the Middle East, which is right now the birthplace of a generation of future enemies. That drain on our power, however, was stopped, if not single-handedly, then by a VERY brave few, who had the courage to come forward with accounts of what they saw at Abu Ghraib and knew was wrong. Some may now know the name Joseph Darby, a soldier and a hero in Iraq, who saw that what was being done to Iraqi prisoners was wrong and reported it. George Bush, the highest ranking military officer, whole-heartedly agreed with Darby's moral assessment, and condemned the behavior of those who had done what Darby reported. Bob Dole and the fringe veterans group attacking John Kerry, are essentially demanding that Joe Darby and those others who reported atrocities in Iraq should apologize to their fellow soldiers. It is as though Dole et al are under the impression that Americans have forgotten that atrocities were indeed committed in Vietnam. It is well-documented, by far more than John Kerry's testimony, that hideous atrocities were committed in Vietnam. To decry the atrocities is not a branding of all Vietnam vets, and a reading of Kerry's testimony from that time shows that he was not accusing anyone American soldier in particular. Vietnam vets have every right to be bitter that they were treated poorly upon their return to the U.S. from that war, but that is a fault attributable to an administration that ordered them to fight an ill-begotten war, and to the American public for a despicable lack of compassion and understanding. The public has learned its lesson from Vietnam. Returning soldiers from Iraq are bring greeted warmly and rightly as heroes, despite that some of them tortured and killed innocent Iraqis. This administration has failed not learned the lesson of Vietnam. So many of those mistakes can be seen again in the embarkment of another misbegotten war born of faulty intelligence and deception. If Bob Dole has a philosophical issue with soldiers reporting the crimes of soldiers, he ought to take it up with those heroic whistleblowers of today, like Joe Darby. It is this writers opinion that such soldiers should not apologize to other soldiers, but should rather be commended for courage that is every bit as extraordinary as that seen on any battlefield. Of course, in the late 1960's, even as a very young man, John Kerry showed both kinds of courage -- on and off the battlefield, while a young George Bush was showing none. For that, John Kerry should not be made to apologize, he should be made President.
Subject: Swift Boat veterans for Bush (UGH!)
Everyone has read about the group calling themselves Swift Boat Veterans , a groups of puppets for the Bush cartel who want to join Dubya in smearing John kerry's record in Vietnam. Bush tried the same stunt with Senator McCain in 2000. Last week The New York Times and The Washington Post exposed these veterans as funded by Bush cronies and puppets for the Bush cartel. Go to http://www.johnkerry.com/oldtricks to view a short video that shows what dubya and his boys are up to. pass it on to friends and media outlets. The more people that view this video, the better chance we have of sending the cowboy back to Crawford!
Linda North Wales, PA
Subject: BCCI P.S.
From Maia Cowan:
And the FBI agent who testified that the Bushes were in no way involved in the BCCI scandal was Robert Mueller, whom George W. Bush appointed as head of the FBI.
(For more of Maia's excellent work, see:
Subject: O'Neill on the Washington Post
That lying son of a Bush John O'Neill is going to do an on-line session on the online edition of the Washington Post on Thursday at 12 noon Eastern time. Questions can be submitted in advance, or during the one-hour session. Naturally not all questions will be answered; the Washington Post moderator selects the questions from among those submitted. I think we should all give him a warm welcome. Here's the link:
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BUSH IS A FOUR-LETTER WORD
Has there ever been a time when Bush could get himself out of a jam? Nope, don't think so. Daddy's friends were always there for him. Today the slack was taken up yet again by a member of the GOP. This most recent case involves Senator Pat Roberts, chairman of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence. (First, he wrote a report that absolved Bush of responsibility for two colossal intelligence failures -- 9/11 and pre-war intelligence about WMDs in Iraq, saving the "second half" of the report until after the election.) Today Roberts saved Bush's butt yet again. He announced a new plan to reform the intelligence community, unaided by any input from the Democratic members of the committee, including the vice chairman Jay Rockefeller.
Zounds, just what Dubya ordered. This "revolutionary" plan is guaranteed to tie up the House, the Senate, and the SSCI in knots over an unprecedented rehab project at least long enough to save Dubya from having to give in and okay a National Intelligence Director who would have staffing and budgetary authority before the election. Never mind that the 9/11 panel specifically warned that a major overhaul would disrupt the intelligence function during this time of dire threat. Put such a thought out of your mind.
Talk about a backdoor "draft." Dubya, Cheney, and Rove must be fanning themselves in relief that someone thought up a solution to their immediate dilemma, seeing as how the co-chairs of the 9/11 panel have been pushing in every possible forum for quicker-than-quick White House acceptance of their solution to the country's intelligence woes. Rumsfeld must have kissed both of Roberts' fuzzy cheeks with appreciation. And no, I'm not talking about the cheeks he shaves. Among the initiated a move such as Roberts made today is what's known as CYA. I wonder what goodies Dubya will leave under his Christmas tree this year.
The Post stupidly gives away the Bush game plan. If these people were indeed recently released for the express purpose of assuming leadership of the "anarchist" (government paid agent provocateurs) descending upon the GOP Convention who else but the Justice Dept could have authorized this action. Anyone who has been incarcerated for over 30 years must have been paroled on a capitol offense. If this story has any merit, it's the Post after all, the Bushies are releasing killers to wreak a Kent State style massacre that the dutiful "Free Press" will blame on the "Anarchists". Rove is following the game plan of his protege, Nixon Dirty Trickster Donald Segretti, to the tee. I guess they'll say Terese Heinz Kerry is behind it all.
Subject: Busting Rove on Upcoming NY Gutter Tricks
May I suggest you call out BuzzFlash readers (i.e. - put it at the top of the homepage for at least a full day) to contact the NYT, WaPo, Chicago Trib, L.A. Times, and the usual broadcast and cable suspects to let them know now, right now (not during or after the fact), that readers are well aware of Rovian plans to incite riots and/or have GOP operatives commit acts of violence or vandalism in NYC - then blame it on peaceful protesters. That this is an opportunity for these papers and t.v. reporters/anchors to prove that they're not just parrots for Rove, but, in fact, capable of looking a bit under the surface and, if it's the case, bust Rove, the RNC, and/or Bush himself (hey, plausible deniability my tukus - it's all out there now) for dirty trickery that's reminiscent of the Reichstag.
Of course, the corollary to this is if some 'anarchist', someone or somebodies who are wholly unconnected with the Democratic party or and the Kerry campaign does something violent or stupid, then the media needs to insist, right then and there, on the spot, that McClellan or any other Rovian flying monkey, provide, unimpeachable, definitive proof, that any such person is in any way, shape or form associated with John Kerry or his campaign - then bust Scotty (or whomever) for political dirty trickery, gutter politics, if he/they cannot or will not provide such link or proof.
Subject: Real help is needed in defining Bush
I re-read your article about Kerry defining Bush before Bush and his minions successfully define (continue to make up lies on ) John Kerry. It's obvious that the Bush campaign theme is that Kerry flip flops on the issues. On Fox, on the right-wing conservative radio shows, and elsewhere, the theme of Kerry supposedly flip flopping is always mentioned several times. Even when citizen supporters of Bush phone in to talk radio or write letters to the editor, they sound off on the same theme. In other words they decide on their lie and stick to it!
I agree with the BuzzFlash commentary that John Kerry MUST define Bush right now and those who speak for him have to do the same! Today I watched Donna Brazille smiling and supposedly speaking for Dems ( versus Kay B. Hutchinson) on CNN. Hutchinson never missed an opportunity to speak ill of Kerry, while Brazille took the high road. We can't afford for Kerry to have representatives purportedly speaking for him and lolly-gagging for the cameras. Seize the moment, don't allow them to talk over you or steal your time, or bully you ( i.e. what Bill O'Reilly did to Paul Krugman ). Do what the Repugs do: go for the jugular. Never fail to mention that Bush's military record is suspect.......that he lied us into a war....that we are not better off today then we were when Clinton left office. Stop being nice. An election is at stake!!
Subject: Republican Convention
You know what I would love to see in New York during the Republican Convention? I would love to see thousands upon thousands of people reading " My Pet Goat" in unison, over loudspeakers. I would love to see thousands upon thousands of people doing the same thing George W. Bush did while the people in New York were wondering who the hell was attacking their city. I would like to see thousands upon thousands of people doing what our " fearless, decisive leader" does when neither Karl Rove or Dick Cheney are there to tell him what to do, or daddy's not there to clean up his mistakes. While Rove's attack machine tries to convince the American public that volunteering for duty in Vietnam isn't as heroic as dressing up as a pilot, both during Vietnam and now, I'd like the American public to see what this president does when showing one's mettle doesn't come with instructions.
Subject: Meet the Press
It's no wonder there is such a divided opinion among the voters in the country. I just watched Tad Devine, a Kerry advisor, and Ken Mehlman, Bush's campaign manager on Meet The Press. Mehlman did the usual talking points that all republicans blather about. This we expect. They all talk about the same thing, use the same exact words and say it over and over and over. My problem is with the democrats. Tad Devine did a poor, sorry, half baked job of explaining and defending John Kerry's history and position. Once again, the republicans made the case for, first he voted for it, then voted against it. He voted to cut defense. He voted for raising taxes. He voted to cut the intelligence budget. Now I know Tim Russert knows the spin on those statements. And I'm sure Mehlman knows as well. But he might as well keep repeating those lines since the democrat next to him makes either no attempt or at best, a lame attempt to refute those spins and set the record straight. I would love to have the opportunity to appear on one of these shows. I know I would make a MUCH better representative for the democratic party then what we have out there. AND don't even get me started on Bob Dole's CNN appearance on Sunday defending the swift boaters. If I was Kerry, I would send someone on these shows that actually knows the facts, can explain the facts and not let these talking heads spin, lie, confuse or get away with anything.
Subject: Sad Day for Working People
There are two kinds of people in the world, the corporate owners - and the slaves who work for them. Starting Monday the slaves have to work harder and longer for less money because under new federal regulations - we lose our overtime pay. People work hard and need rest, time to spend with our families or relaxing in front of the tube. It used to be that if we had to work extra - then at least we would get time and a half for it. Now that is gone.
The extra pay also had the advantage of creating new jobs. Because companies didn't want to pay a lot of extra money - they would hire more help. But now they don't have to. They can just work the slaves twice as long. We need to move out from under the thumbs of our corporate oppressors who own the White House and take back the country for working people. Register to vote - and let the revolution begin.
Subject: People in states that went for Bush in 2000 commit suicide much more often
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This is more than a little creepy. I should not be surprised with a study in Britain and Australia that came out 2 years ago that showed more people commit suicide under conservative governments.
Here is one more reason to vote for Kerry: We might save people's lives!
A BuzzFlash Reader
Subject: Letter from New Zealand
What is going on?? The scurrilous attacks on John Kerry's war record are making the news big time over here, and only serve to enforce the notion that American politics has stooped to an all time low.
Surely though, the public will not be so gullible and shallow that they will allow these gutter tactics to play a part in the upcoming election. Is there an outcry? This is the politics of 'deception' where the real issues are clouded, and the hard questions about where the current administration is leading America and the world are avoided. Please America, dont allow them to get away with this. The world needs your vote for Kerry in November.
I heard Bob Limp Dick Dole say he is a good friend of John Kerry's...........I sure am glad dole he is not a good friend of mine. I have enough snakes around my place. :):):):):)
A BuzzFlash Reader
Subject: Will Kerry Pay for Not Fighting the Swiftboat Liars Sooner?
You asked will Kerry pay for not responding sooner. I don't think so. What he's done is really sharp and cool.
He has let the story become sensationalized, let the slimeballs pile on and shoot their entire wad...then he...and his supporters...come back and annihilate everything they've got. And diminish Bush's shreds of credibility with the decent folks who shouldn't be able to stomach an attack on a real hero by the deserter-in-chief.
This is a tactic as old as the hills. Let em keep coming...while you surround them and get your barrage-ambush ready. Then let it fly.
Even NeoCon whore Robert Novak said, Democrats hate Bush and the GOP doesn't like him too much either. Attacking a war hero makes him even look even lower and slimier---if that's possible.
On an aesthetic note...the Swiftboat liars are all really ugly...rotting from the inside out will do that. And Senator Kerry is handsome, fit, and slim. He looks like the real gentleman and real hero he is.
Subject: Swiftboat Liars
"Fighting for peace is like raping for chastity" was an anti-war slogan during Vietnam. Today's Swiftboat liars have added a new twist. Now they are "lying for truth."
The Oregon prosecutor who implied in the ad that he has first-hand knowledge of Kerry's activities in Vietnam but who now admits that he was repeating rumor and hearsay should immediately shut his lying mouth (except for long enough to apologize to Kerry); and anyone convicted of anything by this guy should immediately start investigating what tainted evidence he might have been willing to introduce at trial. I can hear his justification now -- well, I knew the accused was guilty because a friend of mine told me so, but we needed to fudge the evidence a little to make sure he got convicted -- all in a day's work in the republican version of truth, justice and the American way.
A BuzzFlash Reader
Subject: Bob Dole Joins the Nastiest Scum of the Earth
The way the Bush regime and their supporters are attacking John Kerry makes me wonder how many times John Kerry has to keep showing his shrapnel wounds, and how many times he has to defend the fact that he won medals. Our war hero's are being dishonored, and that fact alone, shows that the soldiers who are fighting for us in Iraq and elsewhere, cannot depend on being respected by this nation, and must have doubts that one day they might be in the unfortunate situation, John Kerry is in.
Thirty years from now, one of these fine hero's might run for president, and if it is against a Bush family member, chances are, his bravery and accomplishments will be trashed, and vilified, by the Bush supporters, and the republicans. I have never in my life seen anything so vicious, and to hear a veteran like Bob Dole join the ranks of the lowest, attack a fellow vet, and diminish his services is indeed repugnant. He should realize that the mean comments he made, is equivalent to someone accusing him of not losing enough of limbs for the country. That, in my opinion is how nasty his comments are.
Bush and his lying supporters have pitted veteran again veteran. Didn't he promise to be a uniter and change the tone in Washington?
A very disgusted
Subject: Bob Dole: The Viagra Man speaks
I caught a few seconds of Bob Dole and heard him say that John Kerry should apologize for statements he made after he returned from Vietnam.
I’ve never liked Bob Dole, he’s been nothing but a Republican shill his entire career but this statement from Dole was particularly disgusting. I wonder if he’s going to call on Bush to apologize for stepping over other applicants to go into the Guard, or spending the first 40 years of his life on a bender, or not being able to achieve a single damned accomplishment that wasn’t set up by Daddy’s friends?
Bob Dole is a pathetic old man who will do anything or say anything for a little TV face time, which is proven by his penile dysfunction commercials.
Well I have a message for you Mr. Bob Dole, it is you who should apologize to the American public for all of those disgusting, repulsive mental images you forced upon us when we watched you in the Viagra commercial. How Vulgar!!!
BLAHHHHHHHHHH UGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH YUCKKKKKKKKKKKKK
Carolyn in Tennessee
Re: Dole Questions Kerry's Wounds
Is this the same Bob (Erectile Dysfunction) Dole who was known in the Senate as Nixon's "hatchet-man" and who is currently peddling America's favorite recreational prescription drug, Viagra, supposedly designed for men with erectile dysfunction (wink, wink)?
A BuzzFlash Reader
Subject: Sen. Zellot Miller
refers to Sen. Zell Miller as:
it be more appropriate (and succinct!) to call him:
And wouldn't it be sane for the Democratic Party to defrock Miller of his party membership prior to the Republican Convention?
minutes before he speaks?
Not like there is anything Dem left inside the 'shell that is Zell'...
to choose either the Republican Party or 'Independent'?
The DNC could then offer to welcome him back if he agreed to sign an oath of fealty to the party (snicker!)!
Subject: Don't forget that the Bush gang also tried to smear Bob Kerrey
John Kerry, John McCain and Max Cleland are not the only Vietnam vets the Bush gang has gone after. I think if you check back to shortly after Bush was inaugurated you will see that they also went after Ex Senator Bob Kerrey's Vietnam record calling him a war criminal. Their purpose was to eliminate him as a potential challenger to Bush in 04.
Bet there were others too.
Keep up the good work I really appreciate BuzzFlash!
There have been more revelations in the past few days about the lies of the Swiftboat gang against Kerry. I believe it is the dirty tactics of Karl Rove who is the chief Nazi propaganda henchman who contrived the attacks against John McCain and others they wanted to defeat since. Anyone who believes the smears against veterans who served honorably when most Repubs in Congress and the administration are nothing but draft dodgers are very gullible.
A BuzzFlash Reader
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Subject: Zell Miller's speech in praise of Kerry pre his rah rah Bush speeches
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