May 10, 2004
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Subject: Rove should know . . .
Karl Rove addressed the Liberty U. Graduates and said to not follow the cynics, but rather judge the leaders by their character. This story also said that Karl Rove has a honorable doctorate from the university. I believe they teach things from the Bible, if that is the case, the Bible says, "You judge a man by his WORDS,and DEEDS, so shall ye know them". From what I know, the word "character" is not found in the Bible. Just what was that degree Karl?
In a not so surprising move, White House spokesman Scott McClellan refused to condemn the outrageous and frankly disrespectful statements to the American people by Rush Limbaugh.
While most of America is angered, ashamed and embarrassed by the acts of a VERY small minority of American soldiers. Rush Limbaugh on the other hand JUSTIFIED the acts:
"The thing though that continually amazes -- here we have these pictures of homoeroticism that look like standard good old American pornography"
When McClellan was asked about the statements he refused to condemn them.
Does the White House have ANY understanding about how disrespectful to the American people Rush's statements are? MOST of America is embarrassed by what happened! The "president" is allegedly angered by what he saw!
Limbaugh statements are a SLAP in the face to Americans!
Most of America knows the VAST majority of our troops would NEVER participate in what Limbaugh calls "good old American pornography"!
Is he crazy? Does he have THAT little respect for our boys?
I don't know were Limbaugh comes from but in my neighborhood we don't disrespect American soldiers like that. We were raised better!
Good old fashion American pornography is "Debbie Does Dallas" not Lynndie does Abdul.
Subject: Good ol' girl who enjoyed cruelty
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Subject: Who made the hoods?
Besides the obvious disgust one would feel at looking at the pictures of Iraqi Prisoners and the "fun" that the guards were having, (don't blame me, that's how Rush Limbaugh describes it), something else has been bothering me: It's the hoods stuck over the prisoner's heads. In the picture of the prisoners all piled up in a human pyramid, the hoods all look identical. And I wondered about that. Were there a bunch of identical hoods just laying around for the soldiers to grab when they felt like blowing off some steam? (Again, that's how Rush sees the whole thing: "Just a little fun". "Our guys, blowing off some steam". Which pretty much explains one of the many reasons why I wouldn't want to hang out with Rush when it's time to unwind. And has anyone bothered to point out that if Rush thinks putting hoods on strangers and sticking things up parts of their unwilling anatomies is relaxing, it says more about him than anything else?) Anyway, where did those hoods come from?
They could have gotten the wires they stuck on that one prisoner from anywhere. You know, the guy on the box with wires hanging off of him. He was the one (or, he's the one we know about), who was told that if he fell off of the box, he would be electrocuted. How long do you think they made him stand there? He had on one of those hoods on too.
And they could have gotten that saddle they put on the back of the 70 year old Iraqi woman, before one of our finest got on her and rode her around and told her she was a donkey, from the locals. (Sean Hannity likens the treatment of Iraqi prisoners to a fraternity hazing. Hey, Sean, do you think that 70 year old woman felt like she was joining a fraternity? Do you think a 70 year old Iraqi woman even knows what a fraternity is? Cause if she doesn't, your fraternity hazing theory would kind of be lost on her.) But I doubt if the locals had those hoods laying around. I think they had to be brought in by the military, or the mercenaries, uh, I mean contractors.
I was in the military, at an isolated base. We had nothing that wasn't shipped in to us. So, where did these hoods come from? Were they left over from Saddam's time? I doubt it, 'cause they have them at Gitmo and Afghanistan, too. Except for the Khaki green color, they kind of look like KKK hoods, with that point on the end. Where do you order something like that? Torture-R-Us? Does the Army have them stored somewhere? Do they have little, tiny labels on the inside that say, "Made in the USA"? The ones in Gitmo have pointy ends too. I bet they're made by the same company. I wonder if it was a no-bid contract? I bet it was. How much did they cost us? Because you know this is just one more fine example of your tax dollars at work.
What kind of weird military name do you think they are called on military order forms? "Liberation hats", maybe. Or, "Winning the Hearts Headgear". Knowing how perverse the Bush Administration is, it's probably something like, "Vision Preservation Accessory". They would have an acronym for them, like, "VPA". As in, "Hey Charlie, we need to order 150 more of those VPA's."
Anyone who has been in the military knows that there are procedures for procurement of supplies. First, there is a determination that something is needed. Then funds must be allocated for this purpose. An authorized source for procurement must be determined. Forms must be filled out to order the needed material. Since it's the military, lots of forms. These things take time and planning.
Somewhere there is a paper trail for every single item at every prison in Iraq, including the hoods. And that means that several things could be determined from following this trail:
1. Whose idea was it to use them in the first place? (Donald, I'm talking to you. Did Dick put you up to this?) The truth is that these hoods were in use before we went into Iraq. You could ask the detainees in Guantanamo, (well, actually, you can't ask them - no one can, not their lawyers, not their families, no one), they flew from Afghanistan to Cuba with their heads hooded. Never mind the illegality of putting hoods on prisoners of war, we got around that by calling them "enemy combatants" , thereby evading those pesky Geneva Convention rules for the treatment of prisoners. I wonder if that 70 year old Iraqi lady was considered an enemy combatant? Or just a fun ride?
2. How were the procurements for the hoods justified? "General, we may need to order several thousand of these, uh, special party hats for command functions."
3. Who okayed the orders? How far up did the authorization for restricted torture equipment go?
4. When was it determined that we needed these hoods? If they've been using them for a year or more, how long before that were the wheels set in motion to make sure they had them on hand? We know they were not left over from conflicts prior to the first Bush Administration, because we weren't ignoring the Geneva Convention back then. We didn't even treat the Nazi prisoners of war like this. But then, we weren't liberating them.
You know, these hoods could potentially reveal a lot more than they cover up.
Subject: Jeb Bush vs the 14th Amendment
It looks like ol' Jebthro is going to purge more people from the Florida voter rolls because they are black. If I remember correctly, Jebthro took the oath that he would support and defend the Constitution of the United states, right??????
Now if Jebthro DID take that oath, then he also should be aware of Section 2 of the 14th Amendment which says:
Section 2. Representatives shall be apportioned among the several states according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each state, excluding Indians not taxed. But when the right to vote at any election for the choice of electors for President and Vice President of the United States, Representatives in Congress, the executive and judicial officers of a state, or the members of the legislature thereof, is denied to any of the male inhabitants of such state, being twenty-one years of age, and citizens of the United States, or in any way abridged, except for participation in rebellion, or other crime, the basis of representation therein shall be reduced in the proportion which the number of such male citizens shall bear to the whole number of male citizens twenty-one years of age in such state.
Since Jebthro and his fellow Republicans are stripping away the right of African Americans to vote, then WE should go to court to enforce Section 2 of the 14th Amendment and remove Republicans such as Katherine Harris and Mark Foley from the House of Representatives!
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Subject: While we weren't looking
This is despicable.
It seems the bush Administration refuses to come across with or account for the promised $20 billion in 9/11 recovery aid to New York City that Congress authorized just days after the attacks.
Subject: More troubling than the WP headline is the truth behind it.
There are many many articles on a number of sites that say the same, and it's true.... you know it, even if you prefer to pretend he's some anti Bush.... but BECAUSE he is so similar, Bush can beat him...... and BECAUE he's so similar, a lot of REALLY liberal people - and they exist and are no longer afraid of the "L word" - won't bother to vote....
And the Democrats don't help themselves; the Republicans would have thrown Bush to the wolves long ago if the shoe were on the other foot; it isn't because they're nice, it's because they don't give a damn about anything except their own little bit of power. The Republicans have a "mission" as bad as it is, the Democrats (the politicians, anyway) have nothing. Did you hear Joe Lieberman during the Rumsfeld interrogation? Absolutely unbelievable. What the hell is he doing in the Democratic party, and why doesn't he just finally shut up? He lost.... does he now want to be BUSH:S next VP?????????????
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Subject: Incompetence is really Genius
In the words of Senator Lindsey Graham: although Rumsfeld “failed us,”it would risk sending the wrong signal to the enemy and “empower them”if he were forced to quit.
Sometimes all you can do these days is to shake your head. Just shake your head because what is happening around you is tantamount to madness...
If ever we were being setup for failure by those leading us, it is happening now.
Somewhere I can hear Bill Hicks saying, “Go back to bed, America... your leaders are ensuring your ultimate demise, but it’ll be okay. Go back to bed, America...”
The reward for continuous incompetence in the role of Secretary of the nations defense in the war on terror is.....(drumroll) continued service!
Because obviously if we were to clean house and find some leaders that knew just what in the HELL they were up against, just what in the HELL they were doing... that would surely lend aid and comfort to the enemy?!?!?!?
Somebody pinch me, ‘cause I really want to wake up now.
Subject: Important link to Orcinus's manifesto for a "Media Revolt"
Join in the Media Revolt!
I was reading Atrios's blog and went to this link http://dneiwert.blogspot.com/2004_05_02_dneiwert_archive.html#108390182327224560.
Many Buzzers have written in and complained about the degraded state of the media and our political discourse, so I thought people might be interested in this.
Leslie in Boston
Subject: Maybe George and Laura weren't invited.
May 8, 2004
Maybe the twins didn't want their parents to come. Would you invite your parents if they had put 3 million people, possibly some of the parents or the graduates out of work in 3 years and insisted they thank them for it? Would you want your parents to come if they were responsible for the deaths of 750 plus kids, for made up reasons, and some of the hidden heroes were possibly relatives of the graduates? Would you, if they were planning to re-institute the draft, after the election, and you knew a lot of your classmates weren't interested in fighting wars for your oil inheritance?
Maybe the 2004 classes at UT and Yale voted and didn't want them there. The Clintons went to Chelsea's graduation and everything was fine. This isn't the first time a famous person has gone to the college graduation of their child.
When I used to separate the pictures at Candid Color, I noticed that a lot of famous people have been to graduations. Robert Redford slept through one of his children's graduations from college at the University of Mass and there are pictures to prove it. Many others smiled and applauded at their children's graduations.
George and Laura aren't big on showing up anywhere they don't get to expunge the invitation list for people who are undesirable, which includes anyone who might make a negative comment. If they can charge every person $1000 for the campaign they will be there and tell you that being laid off, is really a plus and forces you to investigate your true self.
They may even be able to put in a good word at America's hiring champions of the Technical/Manufacturing sector, fast food chains. They teach you to use a computerized cash register and manufacture hamburgers at a phenomenal speed. If the burger isn't off the grill and in your mouth in 10 minutes you get it free and the burger tech gets a write up.
Look what they did to Buckingham Palace and the queen's historical gardens. They traumatized the queen's flamingo flock so bad they refused to return. She has refused to invite another first couple again. This is one paranoid and destructive pair.
UT wouldn't even let GWB in as a student. Yale only let him in because his family donated money and actually knew about the Skull and Bones initiation and some Bush relative may have threatened to exposed the torture. I don't know if he was Skull and Bones, but Rush Limbaugh said this week that they do stuff like what happened in those prisons in Iraq. He said it because John Kerry was skull and bones and forgot Dubya was, as well.
An Iraqi journalist, who was arrested, said they beat a naked 12 year old girl while she screamed for her brother, who was locked in one of the cells. Dubya's drunk driving arrest happened when he had some of his teenage siblings and their friend in his car. Endangering young siblings for kicks, isn't really that bad. Well, not in the Bush family.
Oh well, the paranoid parents of the prodigal daughters create such a stir and who knows how many graduates or their parents might be forced into the Free Speech Zone that always exists a half mile from where ever the first couple show up.
They showed up at the grave of MLK, uninvited, while a memorial was going on at the church next to it. It was a mistake because they weren't allowed to empty the historical church and force the memorial service underground for the duration of his photo-op moment of sucking up to black voters.
They must keep the myth going that they have no protesters because they don't see any protesters and that is because the "Free Speech" crowd are kept where their free speech doesn't assault the ears of God's chosen first couple.
What you refuse to hear, can't hurt you.
Speak up or they assume you agree!!! ABB
Karen Webb, Moore, Ok.
Subject: Abuse in Texas Prisons
This article on google says it all. Cnn, 1997- Missouri sues Texas over abuse of their prisoners at a Texas run private correctional facility. Bush did this in Texas and now it is being done to the world. He is the reason the people in Iraq are being tortured.He has a systemic past of treating people as subhumans. It gives him a feeling of power. John kerry should, if he really wants to be president, bring up the recent abuses of the Texas prison system. Also, on C-Span their is an article about a sadistic state correctional officer being sent to Iraq to manage the prisons. The man was fired and investigated for abuses of the prisoners in Utah. The soldier, Grainer(?), abused prisoners while he was a guard and he beat his wife and child, There is a pattern and it all leads back to Bush and Texas. I hope John Kerry will bring this out to the people. This country is on the verge of becoming as totalitarian as Germany back in the 1930s. I could not understand how that could happen in Germany, but now I am beginning to understand and that scares me. I am praying for our country.
Subject: Bush vs. Nixon
It's easy to compare Nixon's Watergate to Bush's Prisongate.
With Nixon, the questions were; what does the President know and when did he know it?
With Bush, the questions are; what doesn't the President know and when will he ever learn?
Thanks for all of your work following the most corrupt and incompetent President in America's history.
Subject: Placing the Blame
Bush went on Arab television to apologize. American media reported that he did apologize. His apology?
"I told [King Abdullah of Jordan] I was sorry for the humiliation suffered by the Iraqi prisoners, and the humiliation suffered by their families. I told him I was equally sorry that people who have been seeing those pictures didn't understand the true nature and heart of America."
That's pretty close to a real apology, like, "I told one of your neighbors I'm sorry that my son set your cat on fire, and I told him I was just as sorry that you don't see our family for the animal lovers we really are."
That's not an apology, it's self-serving arrogance which makes the situation worse.
In the eyes of the world, those prison guards ARE America, like Hitler's prison camps WERE Germany. We might not like it, but that's what happens when one country invades another country under false pretense.
After all, the majority of Germans never condoned the death camps any more than sane Americans condone the torture of Iraqis. The failure of the German people was in supporting the leaders who made such behavior a reality. Good German citizens wanted to believe Hitler's lies because they WERE good Germans. They wanted to believe that the right path was preemptive war because a German leader said so. They ignored the predictable results of giving Hitler and his minions the power to wage war as they saw fit. They believed the death camps weren't 'the real Germany' any more than the torture of Iraqis is 'the real America' or Saddam's outrages were 'the real Iraq'.
But Americans rightly defined wartime Germany by its worst excesses, not by what Hitler told his people or by how the average German treated his own children.
In the end, that German citizens loved their country and were tricked into war became irrelevant. They were hated.
Even if Hitler had lived to plead ignorance of the camps and near-apologize that they didn't represent the real Germany to, say, Mussolini, who the hell would have cared if he was one level or three removed from direct responsibility? His lies carried his country into war in the first place, his rhetoric swayed his citizenry and made such atrocities inevitable. It was his war.
If Herr Bush wants to avoid comparison to the greatest villain in world history, he should take Riverbend's advice and JUST GO. http://riverbendblog.blogspot.com/2004_05_01_riv,,,
But he won't. If he can't truly apologize, he surely can't admit failure. Neither could Hitler.
And besides, we need those bases for the next war....
Subject: Operation Iraqi Irony
George W. Bush, in an interview with Al-Arabiya television on May 5, 2004 :
"Iraqis are sick of foreign people coming in their country and trying to destabilize their country, and we will help them rid Iraq of these killers."
Help them, indeed.
Subject: Where is the rage?
After gassing up my car yesterday, $20.00s purchased 11.4 gallons, I recalled a question Bush asked while running for President which was, why doesn't Mr. Clinton tell the Saudis to open the spigots to the oil and increase supply? If I remember correctly the price of gas was about $1.50 a gallon then. Where is the rage?
The outrage from the picture of the prisoners in Iraq is understandable, but where is the rage concerning how this was allowed to happen over and over the last couple of years. Coming from a administration that is ready to change our constitution to conform to their own Christian values. Where is the rage?
One of Bush's claim was that no child be left behind, but I read every day of numerous examples of the dumbing and /or numbing of America. Where the free flowing of thoughts, ideas and questions can be and maybe considered to be unpatriotic. Where is the rage?
This country has the skills, technology and the tools to have the highest standards in health care, but is also unaffordable and not available to all its people. Where is the rage?
Corporations are leading this country, yet fly flags of other counties. Where is the rage?
The list goes on and on, but the question is still, Where is the Rage?
Subject: FAILURE OF LEADERSHIP
Another major scandal, so why is it that the media fails to see the big picture? Rather than calling for the resignation of Rumsfeld, it should be calling for the resignation of George W. The failure of leadership is truly his and his alone. Throughout his term in office, our MBA pResident has committed the most egregious mistakes, made bone-headed executive decisions, and refused time and again to acknowledge his shortcomings. If our reputation in the world community is analogous to the stock value of a corporation, then the precipitous decline as we've seen since January 2001 would have given the Board of Directors heart failure long, long ago. How long would a CEO be allowed to keep his management team in place if it were proved to have blundered as badly as Condoleezza Rice, George Tenet, Donald Rumsfeld, Tommy Thompson, General Myers, et al., have done repeatedly? And yet Mr. Bush has not asked for a single resignation based on their incompetence, and instead incomprehensively continues to praise them. Would a BOD knowingly allow its CEO to take the corporation to the brink of bankruptcy and let him rationalize his reasons for doing so or forgive him for covering up his incompetence by use of accounting fraud and trickery? The BOD would be justified in questioning the CEO's judgment. Clearly, it would. Obstinacy must not be confused with conviction or resolve. Narrow-mindedness must not be confused with moral clarity. Prejudice must not be confused with religiosity. Clearly, if Mr. Bush were the CEO of an S&P 500 corporation, the BOD would have CANNED him years ago.
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Subject: Rummy, your minute's up.
"Rumsfeld said he "would resign in a minute" if he thought he could not be effective. But he brushed aside Democratic calls to step down, saying, "I would not resign simply because people try to make a political issue out of it." "
Guess what, Don: your minute is expiring fast. Yes, it is a political issue as well as a moral one--and it affects not only our country and Iraq, but the whole world, no matter how hard you're trying to deny it.
My advice: Pack your bags and get on the first plane to Iraq--they're waiting for you there with open arms (as well as other appendages--hint: they are NOT flowers). And as you stand on that MRE box with electrodes attached to your body parts, remember your own words--it's not torture, but merely abuse. Hope it helps.
Oh, and before you depart, congratulate your buddies in the White House: They have just redefined the Axis of Evil--and it is in plain sight, for the whole world to see just who exactly are its members.
Not only should Rumsfeld resign, so should Bush and Cheney for the lies they told to get us into this mess.
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Subject: Orders to torture come from the top
The torture of prisoners in Iraq is not entirely surprising. The Bush administration has been actively advocating the use of torture ever since 9-11. Many statements have been made floating the idea that torture might be used is special circumstances. Prisoners were given new classifications other that Prisoner of War in order to avoid the restrictions of international law. These prisoners were deliberately reclassified into a legally murky area where no rules exists for one and one reason only - so that they could break the rules.
The abuse of prisoners in Iraq was not the acts of a few individuals. It was in fact the real policy of the military and those soldiers were operating on orders from the top.
What the President creates lawless and encourages it and advocates breaking of the rules then it comes as no surprise when the rules are broken. Bush is responsible for the torture of prisoners in Iraq because he is the one who has made it known that the rule of international law does not apply to what America does. I therefore call on the entire Bush administration to take responsibility and step down from power. This is the kind of thing that happens when America allows a president to take power who was never elected in the first place.
I found yet another site that has the movie of the execution of 3000 Afghan POWs. Apparently the 17 minute movie I sent you a link to was edited down. This link has a version with more details and is 59 minutes long. It is also in Real format instead of Quicktime.
The video is a Canadian Broadcasting Corporation documentary detailing the execution of 3000 prisoners by suffocation and the survivors shot and buried in mass graves. It's far bigger that the Iraqi story.
Subject: Mr. Hamill's Escape
I, too, am confused about Mr. Hamill's "escape". What seemed odd was, first his ability to escape and second, our troops were searching for him but couldn't find him. Yet he evidently was being kept so close that he could walk to our soldiers and identify himself. Now, he won't talk to anyone in the press. Could he have been told not to talk because there may be something fishy about this whole thing? Is this another Jessica Lynch story?
Subject: Wasn't it the buffoon who stated he'd return honor and dignity to the WH??
Please allow me to spout off. I can’t take anymore. The bullshit coming out of the Repuglican’s and their buffoon of a president’s mouth is knee deep and rising fast!
Yesterday, the Repuglican Brownshirts were out in mass calling in on C-Span’s Washington Journal. Reading from their Rovian scripts, the Pugs are trying to goad the press and intimidate the general public by impugning their patriotism. They are warning that the disclosure of the “abuse”pictures is undercutting our war efforts in Iraq and Afghanistan, endangering the lives or our Soldiers fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan and only aids and comforts terrorists. (When have we heard this before?)
Well excuse me, Mr. and Ms. Repuglican. I am not so stupid to know that if there was not one picture taken of the torture, the Iraqi and Afghan people know how to speak! I am sure that when detainees were released they told their family and neighbors about what they witnessed or experienced in prison! (Duh!)
Also, while campaigning for “election”buffoon Bush stated that the abuse of the Iraqi prisoners is a stain on our honor and reputation, but it will not deter us from bringing democracy to Iraq. (Oxymoron?) Oh God, I almost puked! Wasn’t it the buffoon who said he would return honor and dignity to the White House? He also joked during one of the debates by saying the first thing he’d do when he got to the Oval Office was give it a good scrubbin’, (LOL!) And to think we Impeached a duly elected president over sex!
Well it looks like Mr. Bush and his regime have pissed on not only the entire nation, but the world as well! Again. And you know what? I can tell already by the spin and the way the press is protecting him, they’re going to get away with it. Again.
Have a nice day America! Aren’t you proud?
Nancy Lynn Nagy (TN) If Al Gore Jr. was sitting in the Oval Office, NONE of this would have happened!
Check out this quote from the article: "Mr. McClellan said that Mr. Bush had not watched Mr. Rumsfeld's performance on the television aboard the presidential bus, but that he been updated "a few times" by his staff." I ask you, is this not utterly ridiculous? Does anyone out there notice how ludicrous this is?! The President DIDN'T WATCH BUT WAS UPDATED BY HIS STAFF???? Is this man simply so coddled by those around him and so cut-off from reality that he simply doesn't realize what is going on? Or does he simply not care? Or is he just retarded? Somebody needs to figure out the answer to these questions. Anyone? ..Anyone? Beuller?
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Subject: Snapshot of Bush and "Yes, American Can-adian" Bus
The trip is meant to ensure that voters get the message that Bush is concerned about their problems:
Subject: Wingnut Mouthpieces
Among the most bizarre aspects of the whole prisoner abuse scandal is the way wingnut mouthpieces are trying to explain it all away, diminish it, and excuse it. PigBoy and apparently Dennis Miller have compared what happened in Abu Ghraib to fraternity pranks. What?? I've never heard of a fraternity in which people are beaten to death or seventy-year old women are ridden like donkeys. And aren't fraternities joined by CHOICE? I find the comparison absolutely mind boggling.
But what's interesting is the ** need** these people must feel to do it, to defend the current administration even when it's IMPOSSIBLE to do so. No sane person could excuse Rumsfeld from knowing what he knew and sitting on the information, and no one can say it's all right that Bush didn't know. It's as if Pimplebutt and company are afraid that if they, and their dittohead followers, give a tiny inch to the other side, if they stop and think rationally for one second, their whole world will fall apart, their reason for living will disappear. Phrases like "blowing off a little steam" and "Fraternity pranks" give the unthinking dittoheads a way not to acknowledge what's really happening.
I hate to bring up the whole Nazi thing, seems so obvious, but isn't this how they got away with murdering 6 million people? Don't let the masses know what's happening, but if they find out, give them a way to accept and rationalize it so they can keep on living their lives unperturbed. "Oh, this? Just a little camp, you know... a little work camp, it's nothing,... it's like a summer camp! Come on, people! You're always freaking out about nothing! Don't you know we're saving the country from evil? So lighten up!!"
We can't let the Hypocritical Junky and his ilk rationalize away sadism and murder. If do, we're goners.
Subject: Pray and Vote
The Ugly American has raised its ugly head again.
With the horror that has gone on against the Iraqi people, does anyone wonder how we got the name Ugly American? Does anyone wonder why most of the world dislikes us? Bush and his cronies have given more than enough credence to the world calling us Ugly Americans. They view us with utter disdain and rightfully so. Our worldly neighbors have grown to know that the buck continuously stops 10 positions down from Bush. As more horror pictures and acts emerge, dislike will turn to hatred of the USA. And as the hatred develops, new terrorists will target our homeland. Don't expect this greedy SOB administration to realize that. They have thought off the top of their heads since day one. Furthermore, they really don't care what the ramifications of careless planning are. This is a self-centered pResident that welcomes another attack. He envisions himself standing on another pile of smoking rubble with a megaphone addressing an adoring public. Another homeland attack is the only way that Bush will have a chance in the '04 election... that is... if he allows an election.
Subject: Different interpretation of sign to Bus, ltr to police on Platteville, WI arrest
Bush also made people upset at the local school in Cuba City where the motorcade passed by. He was suppose to stop and shake hands with school children, but drove straight through. I wonder if that means popular support is not a requirement for his possible next four years in office, assuming elections are suspended.
A friend of mine wrote this letter; scroll down to look at the variations for what fu stands for.
You used an idiom "a fish rots from within" to describe problems in this administration related to prisoner abuse. The Russian language has the same saying but more appropriately it is "A fish begins to rot [stink] from its head down."
Subject: This country's attitude.....
The "wipe it all up" attitude Rumsfeld has pushed since 9/11 has soaked through this country and has become the mantra of many.....
And yet, there are those who wonder why those four 'workers' were so horribly murdered and their bodies desecrated....
It is past time for people in this country to wake up and realize, not only WHO is really running this country, but WHY we are continuing to let it continue......
Mary in Indiana
Subject: What we must do about the Prison scandal
I have worked as a Prison guard before. The job dehumanizes you, but one of the tenets drilled into you is that ACTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES.
If you treat a prisoner too badly, they will remember and take it out on the next uniform, whether it's you or some other guard.
The worst of this is that the guards and officers who authorized and performed this abuse will not be answering for it. Not in the long run. It's the soldier on the street, the one that's a little bit behind his fellows.
The main thing we must do is take action. In prison, when a similar breach of conduct occurred, the heads of the system would then "bend backwards" to show that it would not happen again. Both to the prisoners and to their families.
Looking at the track record of how the Anthrax mailer was ignored, how Valerie Plame's identity was released, how voters were scrubbed from rolls, we realize we CANNOT rely on the heads of this system to take the action to remedy the situation.
Rumsfeld will not be fired or resign. That's not the way Cheney runs the government,.
WE must show the world that, as a people, we repudiate the way this system has been run.
Bush and his pack must be voted out of office. BY A LANDSLIDE. This would show the world that the American people are not in favor of prisoner abuse, torture, that we are not a pack of bullies.
What then after that? The problem is that the milk has been spilled and can never be returned to it's container. We will live for many years with the legacy and image Bush and Cheney et al have left us.
The time to begin changing that image is today.
Subject: Sat. 4/8
I do not know if any of you watched the Chris Matthews show tonight....sometimes I do, other times depending on whom he has on...I just cannot...but, tonight they did an entire piece on the girl in the "Abuse photos"..and as Rummy says, there will be more and worse (the girl with short dark hair?)
This girl is from some small town in W. Virginia ... one stop light, like the town I grew up in...she bagged groceries at the IGA, and was married and divorced before she was twenty...she has bronchitis and is 5 months pregnant with a baby from the man in the pictures with her. Her home in W. Virginia was a trailer house.
Now, before you, or anything thinks I am putting the girl down I am not. I know or maybe even have had relatives that worked at grocery stores, lived in trailer homes, married much too soon...and got pregnant out of wedlock!!
This, is the typical reservist, sent to Iraq because we have no troops to send....not prepared for the horror in that place...and she absolutely likely lost her sense of reason. They already have a lawyer...and she is stationed at Ft. Bragg in N. Carolina (I think)..not sure of the state. And, I would bet has every intention of suing!!
I do not exactly feel sorry for this girl (she seems evil), but she was poor before she joined, like so many kids, joined the reserves to try to get some money for schooling...even looking forward to the one weekend a month....they were given about 3 months training and shipped off to fight the most selfish war I have ever seen!
I thought Viet Nam was horrid...and it was!
I screamed bloody murder during Desert Storm...and I still think it was wrong...but nothing, nothing comes close to this war for the hell of it.
I am not even sure Bush went to war for oil...I think his Daddy did that...I think Bush went just to get Saddam ... and does not give a hoot about these kids.
I know what I am talking about...reservists. My granddaughter was one....and she is home now, all in one piece....but her psyche...her mind....her mental condition, is going to need some treatment...and if they do not provide it, someday ...she is going to have some problems.
I remember thinking when my brother did not come home from Nam...after seeing how this country treated the vets...that maybe he was the lucky one.
This country...so Rummy says, is the place of opportunity, the place people are constantly trying to get in to!
But, you know, they are, and it is not because it is such a lovely place...with freedoms...I can tell you about freedom...it is because aliens are treated better than those of us who work our back sides off, and pay all the taxes and pay $2 a gallon for gas...we pay all the bills...the middle man...those of us in the middle...pay for George's folly war....all the salaries and good medical benefits for the Senators and congressmen....and all their aides...and George's salary of 400.000 a year...that he likely never even sees...he does not need it!
I am disgusted...........Shirley........St. Louis
Subject: A letter I sent to Senator Byrd
Honorable Senator Byrd,
As I am sure you can see, I am not one of your specific constituents though I suppose one could argue that our senators have all American citizens as their constituents.
I write to you today because of a news item in which you expressed concern about the finger pointing going on around the atrocities committed in Abu Ghraib prison. You asked where the buck stops? It is a good question but has, in fact, been answered in history. As you probably recall, President Truman knew well where the buck stopped, it stopped with him. As it stops with each of our Presidents, our Commanders-in-Chief. President Bush is all too ready to accept the glory, the accolades and the votes for being a "war president" but appears to be totally unwilling to accept that he is ultimately responsible for what the military does while under his watch.
I am well aware that it is the House of Representatives that drafts articles of impeachment. However, I believe that you and others in the Senate have the ability and I believe, responsibility to call for the drafting of articles of impeachment. Certainly this is not the first time that this administration and this President have been guilty of high crimes but sadly, the Republican controlled House has been unwilling to allow the articles to be drafted. I feel that it is time that pressure be exerted on the House to do their constitutional duty in this situation.
While I understand that this could possibly place you in some political jeopardy, I feel the time has come for all good patriots to look beyond their own agendas and personal safety to protect America. I ask you, as a fellow patriot, to do the right thing.
Subject: Jessica Lynch
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't PFC Jessica Lynch say that she was treated decently by her Iraqi captors?
I seem to remember that they even gave her medical treatment, a luxury denied to Iraqi children after ten years of US sanctions. Our sanctions were responsible for the deaths of five hundred Iraqi children per month.
But I digress.
If memory serves, our neonazi press corpse had to invent a story about PFC Lynch being raped by swarthy Muslim hordes.
Unfortunately, the unpatriotic PFC Lynch wouldn't play along.
Are we beneath the contempt of the world community yet?
Michael J. Fowler
Subject: And Bush asks Woodward why the WMD issue has to be in the book....
At one point, Bush actually asks why the search for weapons of mass destruction has to be in the book: ''What's this got to do about it?'' You get the feeling that Woodward is too stunned to answer.
A BuzzFlash Reader
Subject: Even in conservative Arizona !!
The truth about the GooberW cabal is even showing up in conservative Arizona press !! ['Rumsfeld's reign' in Arizona Star, 5/7/04]. The article includes:
It's About Time!!
Subject: Bush Solution to Torture
The Bush solution to the prisoner torture and rape scandal will probably be something like this: "To ensure that America's reputation is never again tarnished by pictures of rape and torture - cameras in prisons are hereby banned."
Subject: John Kerry
I was sitting here watching "Meet The Press" with Tim Russert, and listening to James Carville and his wife Mary Matalin. Just like a true Republican that she is, when James Carville was saying how great John Kerry is, and that he has plans to make great changes,...there she goes putting John Kerry down.
Now, I don't know what's gotten into me, but I'm stuck on billboards for some reason. Could you ask the John Kerry campaign to have billboards with his website, and maybe then, and only then could people read up on what changes this man intends to make. I don't think everyone knows the web site, and if they found out where to look for the issues, hopefully the numbers would go up even higher, and might sway the independents to reach a better conclusion, than to give their votes to that slimy.. pencil neck.. beady eyed.. smirk faced retarded bastard!
A LOYAL BUZZ FAN FOREVER! : )
Subject: Bush's Rapture
Dear Bush Supporters,
If you support the Bush and his war and seeing images of the reality of what he has begun doesn't make a difference then you are one sick puppy and probably would have been right there supporting Hitler in his time because Bush and his cronies knew. Bush and his cronies know. About Abu Ghraib. About 9-11. About all of it. Maybe not 100%, but surely enough for impeachment and jail for murder, treason and a multitude of crimes against humanity. I believe you are a blind dangerous sheep, because he cannot do it without your support.
Please, please, please put your ego aside and really get the facts (NOT from FOX NEWS!!!) Search the Internet and find information for yourself and compare it with what you are being told. Read books. Talk to people. A recent report showed that the more misinformed a person was the more likely that person would support Bush and that the majority of our so-called "liberal" media tend to support the spread of misinformation. People with lower IQ's tend to vote for Bush also. They depend on this. Why do they need to misinform us to get us to support them? Think about it. THINK FOR YOURSELF.
We have the most powerful government on the planet people. They are NOT stupid people (well not really smart either, but you know what I mean). They know what they are doing. Immoral, illegal or not.
Bush doesn't care about the Iraqi people. Bush doesn't care about the American people. Bush believes in and cares about the "chosen" people.
George W Bush is a Fundamentalist Evangelical Christian religious fanatic (frontline: the jesus factor |PBS) who actually believes he has been chosen by God (as God speaks directly to him, you know) to "democratize" (read "Christianize") the entire world. He believes in the "End of Days" and that they are near and as a "chosen" one he can afford to give all his cronies ("Gods other chosen Few") everything they want whether it destroys the planet or kills millions of people. As George W Bush is quoted as saying himself about how he would be remembered in the future, "we'll all be dead".
Why do you think they are so arrogant and behave untouchable? After all, God has already ordained those who will be taken in the rapture and well... good luck to the rest of us because it's going to be hell on earth anyway. Bush might as well help the Lord along with this too by trashing the planet and it's environment. No more green Earth and blue skies. Just a big old lake of fire.
I believe Bush has plans for the globe that none of us could fathom in our worst nightmares. Please, please, please get the facts and make decisions for yourself. Pay attention. The Bush administration is playing us all for fools.
Good ALWAYS triumphs over evil.
May 9, 2004
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Subject: Throw the incumbents out!
Your headline on Sunday, May 9th, asks why Sen. Chuck Hagel is asking questions about Iraq and Kerry is not? Sen. Hagel is one of my Nebraska senators. He is a very ambitious person and he is good at making it seem that he is questioning Bushie's policies, but in the end he ALWAYS supports little Bushy. I think Hagel would like to take over the helm of the Republican party and be the presidential candidate (this time or next). He is one of those sensing the bleeding of the current regime and he is circling like a shark (in that, I hope he does succeed.) He is jockeying for position--ironically he was once a disc jockey. Hagel does try to paint himself as a moderate when he really isn't. Granted he has military experience, which is something little von Bushy can never claim.
Also, someone in the mailbag wrote on Friday, May 7th, that we really need to make sure that Demos are elected so that Congress will no longer be in the hands of the GHP. I suggest a step further--that it is time to oust, de-elect all incumbents be they GHP or Dems. Most of the Dems have been cowed and have gone along with the regime of Bush. They deserve little mercy.
Subject: What Rummy Said About Resigning
"If I felt I could not be effective I would resign in a minute," Rumsfeld said. "I would not resign simply because people try to make a political issue out of it."
Would it be asking too much to have the decision rest with someone else? Perhaps with someone who hasn’t made one FUBAR decision after another for the last two years and whose judgment can reasonably be questioned.
Hmmm...we originally invaded Iraq under the pretense of 9/11, WMD's, Uranium from Niger..etc..etc..etc...all of which have been proven to be false...Now the war mongers, chickenhawks and fake christian radicals have stated that we HAD to remove Saddam because he was a bad man.
His soldiers committed atrocities..such as torturing prisoners in their prisons, using Chemical Weapons against the Kurds, killing enough innocent people to require the use of mass graves, kidnapping people off the streets and holding them without charges indefinately...And for those things which his soldiers did, we held Saddam personally responsible...to the point that we attempted assassination, we killed his children and invaded his country, arrested him, and are now compiling charges of war crimes and crimes against humanity against him.
OK..I'll buy that and agree with it..Now, to the other side of the coin... American soldiers are committing atrocities...such as torturing prisoners in the prisons, using Weapons of Mass and indiscriminate destruction such as Depleted Uranium, vapour bombs, and bombs which spread thousands of bomblets over a large area..up to 28% of which do not explode until someone picks them up...( such as innocent children ). American Soldiers are killing enough innocent men, women and children to warrant the use of mass graves...American soldiers are kidnapping people off the streets and holding them indefinitely, without charges or access to legal representation or family members...
Somehow if Saddam's soldiers did all of those things, which they did; we hold Saddam PERSONALLY RESPONSIBLE AND ACCOUNTABLE, but if Bush's soldiers DO THE SAME THINGS..it is an aberration and we will court martial a few NCO's and perhaps a Lieutenant or two..but BUSH IS NOT RESPONSIBLE....!
WHERE IS THE JUSTICE..WHERE IS THE ACCOUNTABILITY????
Mr. Bush should be immediately removed from office and be indicted for the same crimes against humanity that we are charging Saddam Hussein with.
Horrified and disgusted.
Geoff in Austin.
Subject: The Red part of the Country
Those of us who have watched this country transform itself into something resembling The Evil Empire (the removal of "inconvenient" facts from official documents, the abject apologies of those who displease the leaders, the Press who repeat without question the administration line so long as they can keep their titles, dachas and special privileges, etc.) will howl at the suggestion recently posted by a disgruntled freeper: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1131562/posts
The man (who signs in as "goodnesswins, bless his heart) suggests that freepers start tying red ribbons everywhere, to remind the media "We are not invisible, We are HERE!!. Various ditto-head replies, and then this:
"I wish it wasn't the color Red. I spend most of my life saying better dead than Red and now we are the Reds."
Words fail me.
Shannon in Lexington
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