Hillary thinks it's a damn fight

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He doesn’t know it’s a damn show! He thinks it’s a damn fight!
(Apollo Creed’s trainer in Rocky (1976))

Trying to read Hillary Clinton’s mind — and that of her famous husband — has become the new favorite parlor game of American politics. Is she angling for the vice presidency? Or is she trying to sabotage Obama, to pave the way for her in 2012? Or, less Machiavellian in nature, is she simply waiting until after the West Virginia and Kentucky primaries, both of which she’s expected to win big, thereby allowing her to depart the campaign on a winning note?

For whatever it's worth, my guess is that the real answer is none of the above. No, Hillary is in this race to win.

In reality, of course, she has virtually no chance. The brutal mathematics of the delegate counts makes this obvious: and Hillary’s last Hail Mary shot of trying to win over superdelegates by branding Obama as a loser fell far short on May 6 — disappearing, most likely forever, into the dust of Obama’s North Carolina landslide.

But Hillary Clinton herself seems clearly not to see things that way. And why should she? Look at the enthusiastic crowds she still attracts. Look at the well-heeled special interests still willing to fork over the green (even if one of those "special interests" is her own husband), including AFSCME and EMILY'S List. Look at the willingness of her surrogates to continue trying to tear down Obama — the general election be damned. Look at Bill Clinton himself, traveling the back roads of West Virginia, still attacking Obama as being an elitist.

Never underestimate the infectious quality of the echo chamber within the cocoon that surrounds any serious presidential candidate. The people closest to Hillary still believe in her campaign (or at least claim to). So why shouldn't she?

But there's something more at play here, I think. To Hillary herself, soldiering on is also an expression of patriotism, of a sort — the natural response to the honestly held conviction that she is by far both the better candidate and the superior prospective president.

My guess is that Hillary Clinton does honestly believe — be it a belief fueled by self-interest — that an Obama candidacy will be doomed to defeat. In her mind, she isn't trying to tear down the Democratic Party: she's trying to save it from itself (while, conveniently enough, saving her own ambitions at the same time).

She's wrong, by the way — wrong about it all, in my judgment, and certainly wrong in believing she still has a fighting chance to win. But it's her opinion that matters.

The problem, of course, is that a righteously held delusion, while perhaps morally superior to overt destructive selfishness, is in the end every bit as dangerous — and perhaps more so.

Hillary still thinks this is a damn fight. And it may well take a knockout to convince her otherwise. Unfortunately, by then an awful lot of unnecessary damage will have been done — and not just to the Democratic Party, but to the legacy of the Clintons themselves.

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Hilary thinks it's a fight

"---no one accused the people of California or New York of being racist---" There are too many differences among these three states to list them all, and it is difficult to predict which one of them would be the most offended by the comparison. But there are reposts that suggest a bias based on race in the voting patterns of people voting in this primary. It is extremely naive to think that there won't be a racist component to this race. When Obama wins the nomination the third party groups will turn up the heat to an insane level.

Hillary and Bill, have a

Hillary and Bill, have a zipper problem. Hillary can't keep her mouth shut, constantly putting her foot in it. Bill can't keep ..........!! It boggles the mind, to see them in our faces with these giant character flaws. Sorry, not all Americans are deaf, dumb and or blind.

Curtain Time For Barack Obama? - (uh-oh)

Thank Gaia she has kept in the fight, if this is true: Curtain Time For Barack Obama - Part I by Evelyn Pringle | May 13, 2008 - 8:37am http://www.smirkingchimp.com/thread/14583

Rezko?

You have to be kidding. That babble my Ms Potato Chip had nothing to do whith anything. No new revelations about Obama's relationship with Rezko and certainly no bombshells. So a bad guy gave some money to a political candidates campaign a few elections ago, no one gives a shit. The "article" was so long, dull, and rambling no one would ever be able to use it against Obama anyway. The Rezko ship has sailed, and no one boarded. Hell, Vince Foster's death is more compelling than anything in that meandering diatribe, and no one except for Hannity cares about that either. Face it Billary fans, unless Obama Spitzers himself you have lost. That's what happens in the Democratic party. When one candidate gets more votes than the other they win. Of course this is the Democratic party. I think most of you would fit in better with the other party, after all your candidate does support war and likes to talk about nuclear annihilation of other nations. But I know, I know; Supporting the guy who didn't support the Iraq war, didn't pass NAFTA, didn't Reaganomically continue to deregulate America in the 90's, didn't triangulate with the republicans, didn't recently have a meeting with richard scaiffe, didn't use to be a goldwater girl, and isn't worth 100 million dollars of washington money just makes us a bunch of koolaid drinking cultists. Right?

Vettaking! How'd you know?

Your Holmsian powers of deductive reasoning - ASTOUND! Yes, astound me!

That you could figure that is JUST what the Clinton Apologists would say - I am filled w/amazement!

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AFSCME has already changed its endorsement to Obama.

AFSCME has already changed its endorsement to Obama. Hillary's "support" is falling away.

The most insulting 'Hillaryfacts 'of all..

a. ...to believe that Americans will be/should be proud of all the racists in West Virginia flocking to the polls to defeat a black man, rather than to support a particular white woman.

b. ...to believe that the Super Delegate Big Umbrella Democrats would reward such a belief as a positive 'defining' moment'.

c. ...and finally, but most importantly, to believe that the rest of us would then rally to her side.

Nationalism is not terrorism. And an adversary is not an enemy.

insulting?

WV didn't vote for Hillary because they are racist. Hillary ran a great campaign there. She, Bill, and Chelsea were all over the state making the people there feel like they mattered. They liked Bill Clinton (voted for him both times) and feel it would be a Billary presidency. Obama made little effort there except to run some expensive TV ads and show up at a couple of large events in one area of the state. I know it was calculated on his part, but it didn't look good because she came off looking like the populist and he came out looking like the elitist. By the way, no one accused the people of California or New York of being racist when they voted for her.