Ending the debate about presidential debates: pick winning formats and keep the candidates out of it

photos of Bush from 2004. This can't ever happen again.

Every 4 years, we have a presidential cycle, and every quadrennial, we have a debate... about presidential debates.

This year, we have the "hey, let's have town meetings" and the "hey, let's have Lincoln-Douglas debates." And these are good ideas. But part of why we have this debate is that we never know what and how and when we have debates.

The days of the League of Women Voters running a non-partisan debate setup are long gone. And that is a shame. We need a non-partisan group to set up a system and say how we will have debates.

The debates shouldn't be set to the whims of the candidate who is running. We should establish a setup where we, the voters, think we will get the most from the candidates.

It felt like Al Gore and George W. Bush set the tone in 2000 and John Kerry and Bush set the tone in 2004, and it may have made them feel better, but didn't serve us and democracy well at all.

If you are running for president of the United States, you should know coming in that there will be 5 debates: 2 traditional, 1 town hall, 1 YouTube, and 1 other, perhaps a Lincoln-Douglas debate, with a VP debate. The moderators and panelists will not be selected or approved by the candidates, and they will be picked from a variety of media, with very few TV people involved. The networks can fight over which debates they carry, but at least one over-the-air network must carry each debate.

(This is, of course, one scenario, but I happen to like this one a lot.)

And there will be some ground rules for these debates. Some will be obvious. Penalty time will be assessed if you go over time or dance around a question.

Others should be obvious, but haven't been. For example, no electronic help will be allowed.

In a recent talk in Chicago, Newton Minow noted that the candidates used to be told that no notes could be brought into the studio, and that they were checked to see if they had any paper on them. Minow said that candidates were then given blue pieces of paper to take notes during the debate.

No candidate team will have any input on how the debates are staged. For example, from the 2004 debates: "Suspicious observers noted Bush's debate advance team had insisted that no cameras be positioned behind Bush or Kerry during the debate."

And finally, if a third-party candidate reaches a reasonable percentage in the polls, that person will be invited to the debate, regardless of how the Democratic Party or the Republican Party feels about the matter.

Those are some of what I would do to improve the presidential debates. And I would use those same rules for the primary debates. There is no way Charles Gibson should ever have any control or input into a debate ever again.

But let us know what you think: how would you set up the debates? Would you have it the same way each time? Would you have non-partisans run them? Leave it up to the candidates? Let us know.

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Have a real debate

In a real debate, the participants defend their positions with facts, with any deviation from this penalized. For example, a participant using an ad hominem argument would be called out by the moderator and have points deducted. The so-called Presidential debates that we have had foisted upon us by the candidates, political parties, and news media are window dressing for a larger charade in which the New World Order lets us pretend that there are two political parties and that elected officials can institute structural change. They are not debates. Wouldn't it be interesting if we had actual debates based on facts. The country might actually be governed by rational decision making.

ONLY DEBATE ON PBS OR MSNBC (MAYBE NBC or CNN!)

Do NOT do any debates on ABC, or CBS, or FOX, because they are much too biased, and they cannot be at all trusted!!! This is of primary importance.

Real Debates

Each candidate answers the same question, and MUST answer it. Each candidate must be checked for electronic devices. Why can't the League of Women Voters be in charge? NO PUNDITS ALLOWED. No partisan corporate media should set up any debate, ever. You Tube is a stupid idea for a format. Town Hall is OK as long as audience discrimination is not part of the process. Any tee shirt should be allowed. Why can't we use Public Broadcasting to air them all and leave the corporate media out completely? Questions should be about the "real issues". NO question should involve religion, marriage, or reproductive rights of women!

Let a REAL Democracy Shine!

One thing many of us are tired of is the power the MSM plays on the candidates. The MSM decides which couple candidates are going to be given the attention and the heck with the others. Of course those that are given the attention are those who are "moderate" and "corporate". Thus, we need to get back to what a real democracy is. Allow the People to hear ALL the candidates give their points. EVERY candidate will be given EQUAL time to be asked questions and to answer them. None of the games like with the primaries in which Hillary was given the most questions followed by Obama, etc, etc. Poor Kucinich was given only ONE question in one of the debates and it was about him once seeing a flying saucer! Come on! What the heck! Also, the moderators MUST NOT be from MSM, but from a wide range of areas in the community. The candidates do NOT have input into the questions and subjects either. I love the idea that one of the bloggers here stated in which each debate focuses on a particular subject. However, I would generalize it into perhaps: Foreign affairs, domestic affairs, environment/energy, etc. It is time to learn about the candidates we're expected to vote for other then the cost of their haircut and whether their preacher loves America or not.

Best Debate Format: Each One Is A Single Issue

Issue-Specific Debates: Please press for the idea of having issue-specific debates and/or town halls. In this way, voters can get their questions answered about that issue, moderators cannot unduly influence the debate, and candidates can clearly annunciate their positions without having to resort to sound bites. I suggest they start out very specific and gradually become more general, in an order like: Iraq; Gas and Oil Prices; Abortion; Housing Slump; Taxes; Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid; Global Warming; Education; Immigration, Border Security; Health Care; The Middle East; Military (Spending, Readiness, Benefits, etc.); The Environment; Terrorism; The Economy; Commander-In-Chief. (by Roamoff, the only REAL poet. > www.JustPlainPoetry.com <)

Reasonable %

Who determines the reasonable percentage? Doesn't leaving a candidate like Nader or McKinney out of the debates preclude them from getting exposure and thus a reasonable percentage? Look at how the media covers the presidential elections. If Obama or McCain sniffle from a cold it becomes a major story on the main stream corporate media. The way these "journalists" and "reporters" cover the presidential race there is never even a mention of anyone other than the two candidates from the Corporate Parties. So the average Joes and Janes, the vast majority who get their "news" from network TV don't have a clue that there are other candidates running, that they can cast their ballot for someone other than a Republican or a Democrat. This is how Democrats and Republicans want it. That way a Corporate Party always wins, never has anyone threatening their domination over the nation. How about we let the air waves which the people own cover ALL of the candidates as a public service which is the reason broadcast licenses are issued by the FCC in the first place. Oh, but that would be so anti-free market? Perhaps, but it would be pro-democracy. Run Ralph. Run!