How Did New Hampshire Voters Confound Pundits, Pollsters, Campaign Staffers?

Nobody's mentioned the obvious answer: People lie to pollsters! I think Americans have finally hit on a way to get revenge on the arrogant, pervasive media, the marketing mavens and manipulators - the Roves of the world. It's easy as pie - when asked by a pollster - you lie!

I second, third the motion again.....Diebold. No question. As long as we Diebold, no vote count can be trusted.

DIEBOLD...!!!

I got to the point I had to turn off MSNBC (or should I call it BS-NBC) because I got sick and tired of the irresponsible bullshit oozing out of the mouth of Tweety Matthews. I really believe that thousands of New Hampshire Voters got so sick of the bullshit emanating from the Corporate Controlled Conservative Press (hmmm, CCCP, now WHERE have I encountered that acronym before????) and they decided to stand up and pimp slap Tweety. It was such a treat to see Tom Brokaw and Rachel Maddow also castigate the BLOND FRANKENSTEIN on live TV. And I have to give props to Keith Olberman for also giving it to Tweety with both barrels after Tweety slobbered all over Tom De Lay yesterday . Check out the crooks and Liars link where Keith nails Tweety over his lust for De Lay at
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/01/08/keith-spanks-matthews-for-his-delay-crush/

I've already sent an e-mail to MSNBC demanding that they fire Tweety Matthews for his irresponsible behavior on Tuesday. And, Buzz, I want to nominate Tweety for Media Putz of the Week again over this. He sure deserves it again. At times like this I sure miss Media Whores Onlie, but Thank God I got BuzzFlash!!!!!!

More crazy mismatch of polling and actual votes...Don't look for tinfoil hats at all costs! Conspiracy? No way! How dare you accuse Karl Rove the spin meister and election thief master and his minions. Trust in the system and Bushes last 7 years to know that elections are honest and fair. Do not question. Ignore alien and CT orders. NOT.

Election Integrity is on it. Give them (Bev and Brad) a chance before jumping to any conclusions...but we know their modis operandi...and if it smells fishy...hey it's a nasty slimy mackeral.

They twist, lie, steal, and create the reality and all we can do is sit back and analize what they have done, instead of arrest their asses NOW!Two stolen elections and we accept Bush/Cheney as somehow legitimate? After all Bush Cheney are the leaders of the GOP and the national committee has already been found guilty of violating federal election laws on numerous occassions, (NH phone jamming, fixing recounts, caging etc.)Election theft and corruption is their art. Does anyone think that this doesn't include corrupting the democrat primaries to their advantage? Give me a break, they laugh and spit in our direction everytime a poster to a thread tries to 'dismiss the mere thought of conspiracy'.

Never trust the outcome as long as (Diebold / Primere my ass is) in charge. How many times must we be ripped off to understand this? The one poll that will be right is that Hillary is a loser in the general, that one will be proven right come hell or black-high-water. Hell they've told us that from the start Hillary can't win. In New Hampshire as in Iowa people are smart enough to understand her negatives.

Hell she was crying in NH. Launch the swift boats already. To accept this surprise is to set the stage for many more 'surprises to come'. Hell the MSM is brainwashing us to believe polling is not to be trusted. Hogwash and spin from the Rovian Master.

WAKE UP! We're screwed. Prepare to March or submit to the machine. The choice is yours...are you a natural man/woman or a buymebot?

The Iowa caucuses are not perfect but at least a count of warm bodies can't be rigged. Hillary is actually the neocons' dream candidate. They just need to reprogram the dittoheads to accept her.

Are people voting for who they think will win instead of who they really want, in their heart of hearts, to win? If so, they need to cut it out. What have we got to loose? How many of you NH voters said to yourself "I really love____ but I just don't think he/she can win." For those who haven't voted in a primary yet, please please I beg you please don't fall into that trap.

1/20/09 - End of an Error!

Instead of an Obama blowout, Hillary managed a narrow victory. Rather than looking under the bed for the guys in black hats hacking the vote, look at the exit polls. Women turned out in a big way for Hillary, this time. The youth vote didn't flood in such large numbers to Obama. And, we all forget, this was New Hampshire.

I, for one, and glad Hillary won. I was never comfortable with Hillary as President Apparent before a vote was cast. I was equally uncomfortable with ridiculous jubilation over an inevitable Obama Presidency after Iowa.

When we get to Denver, the Democratic nominee should know that he or she has been in a fight. I want to see eyes gouged, low blows, and their thongs ripped off in the mud. The best and most tenacious fighter should be our nominee. Otherwise, it will just be a replay of 2004 when our nominee stuck his head in the sand and his ass in the air and surrendered to Bush without a fight.

"We can't demand freedom of speech, then turn around and say, 'But please don't say bad things about us.' You gotta be a grownup and take your hits."

George Clooney

What went wrong with polls? Diebold and republican LHS control 80% of the voting in New Hampshire. In hand counted precints Obama won by the pre-primary predicted margins. In machine counted optical scan counties he was upset. This is a test to see how far they can go in corrupting the vote. The excuses and reasons were already trotted out as to 'why' Hillary beat all the odds. It's smells like shit because it is. Funny how republican polls were right on? Obama was surging, Edwards was surging after Iowa, and then out of nowhere for lame reasons, Hillary surges at the last second. Come on folks what a bunch of crap. What caused Obama and Edwards to slump drastically and overnight?

Hillary is the canidate of choice for the GOP to defeat with countless polls showing she cannot beat a republican in the general election. Of course they will do whatever they can to make her the nominee. This is so obvious as to be beyond reproach. She's a swift boaters wet dream come true.

Stopping the Obama momemtum was critical to their efforts. Had Obama been allowed to win New Hampshire it would have killed Hillary's fund raising etc, and sent her in a tailspin.

Wake up folks, 2000, and 2004 were stolen (THE FACTS) and the marginal win by democrats in 2004 was just to keep us quiet until the big theft of 2008.

Go see breaking news at Brad Blog.

In just about every recent case of WTF, we later discovered the polls were right.

So for now, we'll suffer with b.s. from those who know somethings wrong -but choose to ignore it.
I'll start with MSNBC because that's who I listened to most often: they repeatedly stressed the importance of crossovers, the Independents, new voters and the youth turnout. All unknown factors -but unanimously leaning anti-Clinton. After the results came in - all the Chief Nora would say was 'the 'older' women did it'.
But Chuck Todd from Hotline, speaking on MSNBC, immediately started the race ball rolling : 'It must have been 'race'. Digging the race card deeper he went on to imply that Obama won in Iowa only because there wasn't a curtain to hide the voters inner racist thoughts. New Hampshire therefore was curtains for Obama.
And General Wesley Clark this morning, speaking from the African-American loving Clinton campaign said "It wasn't about preaching".
The words of real 'winner'.

Or maybe Chief Nora was right after all:
New Hamshire, the 'live free or die' state, is just filled with a bunch of pussies.

Nationalism is not terrorism. And an adversary is not an enemy.

GOPhascists probably would rather run against Hillary, and they can manipulate the vote counting machines. Maybe the results are real, but for polls to be that wrong, something like 2004 Ohio might be happening early this time around?

I want neither Obama or Hillary to be our 'lite' alternative to whatever wacko the R's fall for, so this outcome is less a concern than the obvious efforts of the establisment to minimize all progressive or populist voices.