Republican leaders, young and old, are still smoking the same brand

THE FIFTH COLUMNIST by P.M. Carpenter

They were pulverized, hurled back, swept aside, compared to dog food by one of their leading (but skedaddling) own, and unmistakably marginalized as the anachronistic voice of America's fastest diminishing minority: dyspeptic white guys.

Yet they still "differ," as the Politico reports this week, "on whether the heavy losses [they] suffered in the past two election cycles were a result of unique circumstances and the ever-swinging political pendulum or structural problems" -- what, that is, they stood for, and stood on.

It's astonishing, but at the rate things are going, the medieval Church's acceptance of the sun's solar-system centrality may someday seem like a snap decision compared to the agonized knuckledragging of the modern Republican Party.

It just got whacked -- but good -- upside the head by virtually every region and demographic in these United States, but "GOP officials and strategists [are offering] sharply contrasting assessments of what went wrong." And what contrasts most sharply, as the Politico observes, are the "generational lines" of disagreement.

But that, in my opinion, is the least of their problems -- the actual greatest of which I'll get to shortly.

The old bulls, such as Gov. Haley Barbour, are saying "I have looked down at the grave of the Republican Party, and this ain’t it. I’ve seen it a lot worse." And what he recalls as worse was the post-Watergate era, when as executive director of the Mississippi state party he witnessed the establishment of "a task force … to consider whether Republicans should change their name."

Yep, as bad to worse goes, for the GOP that era was bad. Yet what Barbour's analysis ignores, willfully or not, is that Watergate had nothing to do with the fundamentals of Republican ideology. It was, rather, the unfolding and metastasis of one paranoid criminal's beady-eyed scheming -- the political repercussions of which vanished almost as quickly as his eleventh-hour departure.

What's more, America had not yet suffered the gruesome aftermath of supply-siding inanities. All that educational fun still awaited us. Now the nation knows better; yet RNC chairman Mike Duncan, like Mr. Barbour, still insists it was merely "the mood of the country" that done the GOP wrong. He detects no "rejection of the party’s conservative philosophy."

On the other philosophical side of GOP territory graze the younger bulls, such as Gov. Tim Pawlenty, who is "sound[ing] the alarm of impending permanent minority status unless the party changes."

They -- the Barbours and Duncans, says Pawlenty -- can rightfully blame the ill-conceived war in Iraq and their president and his collapsing economy and leave it that, if they wish, but their dismission comes up short, and perilously so.

Then, he vaguely tries his best to go bold. "The Republican Party is going to need more than just a comb-over," he asserts. However, as the Politico worded what he follows with, "he doesn’t advocate for a major ideological shift."

And that, not Barbourism, if you will, is the greatest problem within today's GOP: Not even its young "revolutionaries" can see what is so plainly in front of them.

There was a far less complicated time when the simplicity of Republican ideology -- always small government, no matter what; unburdensome taxation, no matter what; laissez-faire federal undersight, no matter what -- was workable, or at least tolerable, in our political society. But that time has long since passed.

The need for a mixed-market front in the face of globalized economic complexities, the regulatory exigencies of multinational corporate behemoths, the internal competitions among an increasingly pluralistic and rapidly mutating postindustrial society -- the sheer, staggering costs of maintaining the health and education of that society -- and so on, and so on, have swamped into irrelevance what the Tim Pawlentys of this world see as workable modern conservatism -- that term itself a Voltarian triad of internal contradictions.

Hence what yesterday was the center-left is today the center, and what the center-right was is now the far right. In thirty years "traditional Republican ideology" will be as dusty a term as "mercantilism."

Marx was most likely wrong about history being a self-directional and inexorable force, but Republicans, bless their little nineteenth-century hearts, are doing their best to prove him right.

 

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THE FIFTH COLUMNIST by P.M. Carpenter

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GOP not dead yet

The US is full of nut cases who voted for John McCain. The GOP is not dead so long as 50% or more of the US believes the propaganda spewed by the MSM.

The GOP is not dead where I live...

but it seems they have a lot of people fooled. Here in southwest VA, where we speak and vote a lot like Tennesseeans, a big majority voted for McCain, probably about the same as voted for Bush last time. Among the people I have talked to, the issues are abortion, gays, and guns. These people would never vote for a Democrat as long as Republicans continue to cater, or should I say pander, to their feelings on these issues. In their minds, Democrats are evil and un-Christian. The economic and greater goverance issues hardly factor into their votinng decisions. Most of the people here listen to right-wing talk radio all day and they watch Fox news for entertainment at night. I have given up trying to change their minds. On the supply-side ecomonics issue, while I agree with you that it has been proven wrong, the Dems seems to be silent on it. They, including Obama, should be cutting down the "supply side" theory in every speech, but they don't and I don't expect them to start. They are weak. They are probably benefitting personally from the status quo. The Dems must stand up for something, like kicking Joe L out of the caucus, that they will continue to fall for anything. For instance, I will not be surprised when Obama announces that the Bush administration will not be investigated for anything they might have done wrong. I'm getting angry just thinking about that day.

Trending red

Indeed, southwest Virginia trended red this year, 9 contiguous counties and another northwest of Roanoke. (Check it out on the NYTimes map http://elections.nytimes.com/2008/results/president/map.html). However, the change was not as pronounced as in the bordering counties in WVA, KY, and TN. So take a bit of heart, even though most of your neighbors don't agree with you. And read my other comment below.

We'll see what Obama will do. He may be smart to do necessary governmental house cleaning, like closing Gitmo and officially (re)banning torture. He has said he wants to restructure taxes, and if he can it will benefit most of your neighbors although they surely won't be rushing up to DC to kiss his hand. Going after the Bushies might be satisfying, but probably would just stir up a lot of opposition. Who needs to give Rush Limbaugh and Fox News more fodder?

You're angry. Millions of us are angry. But now we've had a big change across the country and we shouldn't blow our winnings by being vindictive. If Obama is successful, more of your neighbors, if not a majority, will vote for him in 2012. That will be the sweetest revenge.

Colleen Clark
Cambridge, MA

PM, the problem is no longer the Repub party.. it is their DEM

PM, the problem is no longer the Repub party.. it is their DEMOCRAT ENABLERS!!

Here we have THREE links in a row detailing what we ALL KNOW: That the Bush/Pelosi/Paulson bailout is NOTHING but a LICENSE to LOOT, PLUNDER, ROB, & rip-off TRILLIONS of dollars from American taxpayers.

But while the Bush-GOP team is, as usual, able to keep that REAL news OUT of the 'news' (talking instead about a paltry $25 billion for, maybe, an auto industry bailout), PELOSI, REID, and now the Obama team SITS QUIETLY ON THE SIDELINE, DOING NOTHING to HAMMER PAULSON and Bush for their CRONY GIVE-AWAY SLUSH FUND.

To make this even clearer, Righties WILL have EVERY RIGHT to call this "THE OBAMA RECESSION", if Pres-elect Obama does NOTHING to ACCOUNT FOR that half-a-TRILLION DOLLARS of TAXPAYER MONEY (not even "money" - MORE DEBT for taxpayers to pay off later!) - that Paulson is shoving out the doors into his cronies get-away trucks. That is money that SHOULD BE GOING TO PROVIDE us JOBS building roads, highways, renewable energy, more health care workers, etc. in the near term future... funds that WILL NOT BE AVAILABLE, because Bush, Paulson, Cheney, have squired away A HALF TRILLION DOLLARS while the DC Democrats - IN CONTROL of BOTH HOUSES OF CONGRESS - DID NOTHING!

#1. Bush admin. PRESIDES OVER BIGGEST (taxpayer) REDISTRIBUTION OF WEALTH in US History
http://www.epolitical.org/2008/11/16/bush-administration-presides-over-largest-redistribution-of-wealth-in-history/

#2. Wall St. Bailout a TRILLION DOLLAR CRIME SCENE, Naomi Klein
(author of "Shock Doctrine" which mentions "free markets" guru Milton Friedman APPROVING of the PINOCHET violent, murderous, dictatorial, anti-democracy coup in Chile)
http://www.alternet.org/workplace/107000/?page=entire

#3. Noami Kelin again, "BAILOUT is THE NEW IRAQ WAR pig-trough: BILLIONS for insider Bush-Paulson cronies to Loot, Steal, & Plunder...
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/24012700/the_new_trough/print

They'll be back

Please do not misunderestimate the power of ignorance harnessed, which is an art sociopathic plutocrats have mastered

The unthoughtful outnumber us and are gaining demographically, and the wonder of this election is that wrong lost so marginally.

Palin represents the best of who they are, and we ought be very afraid of what they can accomplish in defeat.

Cut and paste coalition falling apart

In recent years the Republican party has been an increasingly uneasy coalition between the moneyed classes who have relied on the votes of social conservatives, evangelicals, and the uneducated who were willing to vote against their economic interests because they liked the rhetoric Reagan and Atwater and Rove dished up to them. "What's the Matter with Kansas?" asked Thomas Frank. I think finally enough voters got sick of this and have sent the Republicans packing. The only places where the Republicans gained votes this election were in the counties I termed the "racist belt" to myself when I saw the map. Counties from southern WVA, eastern KY, most of TN, Arkansas, except for Little Rock, Pine Bluff and a half a dozen counties (black)on the Arkansas side of the Mississippi Delta, eastern OK and most of Louisiana (ethnically cleansed by Katrina). Check out the map of voting changes 2004 to 2008 here.
http://elections.nytimes.com/2008/results/president/map.html

Many Republicans seem not to know what hit them. Here's Bill Kristol's take in the NYTimes on Monday.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/17/opinion/17kristol.html?_r=1

They're still pining for Reagan, although he was the start of their problems and irrelevant to most voters. You'd have to have been born before 1970 to have a conscious memory of those years. They're going to have to wander in the wilderness for some time before they develop some kind of coherent thoughts and a serious plan for their future.

Meanwhile, go Obama!
Colleen Clark
Cambridge, MA

We knew where it was going

We knew where it was going too, we knew back in Reagans days when Republicans wanted to torture people who hadnt attacked us in Central America that one day Republicans would want to torture people who hadnt attacked us openly. We knew the Republican Party had this Southern Strategy thing where they did everything they possibly could to round up the MOST willfully ignorant Conservative supporters they could possibly find, we knew that in many ways they still bitterly cling to believing in a flat-earth and they would one day find a way to go over the edge of it

PM, your right up to a

PM, your right up to a point. However, the two ton albatross hanging around the GOP's throat isn't just a failed ideology that wouldn't be such a failure if they just knew how to acknowledge reality and compromise.

Like socializing the rescue of the economy.

I mean, they could make all that work if they were smart about it.

Whatever.

No. What's dragging them into obscurity is the death grip the religious right (ie, their 'base' which in Arabic is 'al qaeda') has on their soul and the dogmatic, take no prisoners, liberalism is evil, sex (not markets) needs legislated regulation and hurry up Jesus I'm ready for The End worldview that was all the rage 500 years ago.

The Dying Elephant

The election of '32, which was the last election where the failure of Republican economic policy was obvious to the electorate, ushered in 20 years of a democrat in the White House. Had elements of the Right not eliminated half of the Kennedy brothers, the economic history of the U.S. from the Sixties forward would have been vastly more inclusive. Instead, the country got Nixon the Crook and 30 years of Reagan trickle-down, with a brief 8 year respite of Republican light leadership, culminating in the economic meltdown and potential depression at the end of the reign of Clueless George. The election of Obama signals a transformational change in American politics with the GOP relegated to the status of a regional party of the Old Confederacy and sparsely populated areas of the West with know-nothing religious zealots as its foot soldiers. The country stands at the brink of a new age of enightenment which is why there is such palpable excitement in the air and the fervent desire of up to 4 million citizens to attend Obama's inaugural.

They Shouldn't Have Stood With Bush

Instead of party loyalty, Republicans should have remembered their constituency and shown loyalty to the American people. Now they are reaping what was sown. Ah, I love the taste of denial in the morning.