Barack Obama's Methodical Madness

THE FIFTH COLUMNIST by P.M. Carpenter

Chris Matthews appeared early yesterday morning on MSNBC to breathlessly announce that the previous evening's ABC presidential debate -- almost universally deemed by the media a rough one for Barack Obama -- had once again opened a path for Hillary Clinton to seize the nomination. This is a regular occurrence for Mr. Matthews. Every time Obama so much as sneezes, Chris scrambles to cover his bets, which were once all on Hillary.

Before said breathless announcement, however, Matthews did rather thoughtfully address the central difficulty of Obama's modus operandi, which itself permits these recidivist claims about the nagging potential of a Clinton nomination. And that difficulty is the Illinois senator's determination to practice a "new politics" -- all that kinder, gentler jazz, the one in which when Clinton, or anyone else, comes after him with a knife, he not only refuses to retaliate with a gun, he pretty much turns the other cheek.

It is, no doubt, a unique way of running a presidential campaign, at least for this long of a duration. Many have tried it before, only to quickly acquiesce to the old, retaliatory mudslinging ways. But Obama is hanging in there, and in so doing it earns him reviews such as Thursday's blistering version from the New York Times:

"The result was arguably one of Mr. Obama’s weakest debate performances. He at times appeared annoyed as he sought to answer questions about his former pastor, his reluctance to wear an American flag pin on his lapel and his association in Chicago with former members of the Weather Underground."

His annoyance is often framed by media commentators as an emotion stemming from an inability, rather than reluctance, to answer, once again, questions about his former pastor, electoral bitterness, flag pins and now, added to the almost comedic mix, some 1960s radical of trifling acquaintance.

Undoubtedly -- or at least there's no doubt of this in my opinion -- Obama needs to tighten his responses. On every occasion that I hear him asked one of these tiresome things, for the umpteenth time, he launches into pauses and hesitations and stutterings as though it's the first.

This is perplexing. He should either deliver a terse, fluid explanation of the same and exact wording each and every time, or, as an alternative course, throw into the inquisitor's face what George W. Bush did repeatedly in 2000 about his former drug use: "I've already answered that question and I ain't a goin' to no more. Next question."

Anything but pauses and hesitations and stutterings. It is those, and not the answers themselves, that prompt journalists to write about what they interpret as his "weakest debate performance" yet.

Nevertheless there's some real question about the Times' use of that superlative. In one way it was his strongest debate performance yet, inasmuch as it reinforced in voters' minds his demonstrated determination to avoid the old politics of retaliatory tactics.

If ever there was a debate in which Obama could have easily ridiculed and returned fire, it was Wednesday's. Instead he remained reasonably cool and tried to remind ABC News with a durable patience that far surpasses mine that the world's future hinges on something a bit weightier than a 99-cent lapel pin. In fact it was his opponents -- the use of the plural is deliberate -- who looked ridiculous, and they required no outside assistance.

What's more, as uncomfortable as the new politics may appear at times, voters seem to be responding favorably. Indeed, the more Hillary wields the old politics, the lower her numbers go. As pollster John Zogby has observed: "This is not a year for negative campaigning and Clinton's pounding of Obama ... does not seem to be working."

That's the understatement of the primary season, because in Pennsylvania she's gone from at least a 20-point lead of just a few weeks ago to a statistical tie today. Every observer knew the numbers would tighten as the primary approached, but not one of them to my knowledge predicted a dead heat four days out. It is now not unreasonable to speculate that Obama could actually pull off an upset in the Keystone State.

And that, as even many of Hillary's advisers and supporters have conceded, would, at long last, be all she wrote.

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THE FIFTH COLUMNIST by P.M. Carpenter

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What Was That?

"The sound of all those distractions being tossed into the garbage can where they belong." "What'll be left for us to discuss?" "Issues." "And then what sort of world?" "It'll be up to us."

Voteirresponsibly08

Hey, Red, well said!!!! This guy foams at the mouth like someone else.....like maybe robertajones???

American's Open your eyes..Obama -Anti-American Supporter!

Obama’s Friends-Scarry!!! ———————————————— William Ayers - American Terrorist Raul Reyes - Columbian Terrorist Antonio Rezko - Muslim Slum Lord Professor Khalidi - Muslim Terrorist Supporter Reverend Wright - Racist N.O.I. Muslim Supporter/Preacher Louis Farrakhan - Racist N.O.I. Muslim Supporter/ Faux Preacher Nadhmi Auchi - Muslim Billionaire Sohaib Abassi - Muslim Millionaire Rea more here: http://www.audacityofhypocrisy.com

Obama should develop the

Obama should develop the habit of standing and thinking quietly in the thinker's pose (holding the chin), then answering tersely. Wes Clark did this in 2004 and Bill Clinton used to do it. Definitely it would not work in Obama's favor to launch reflexively into canned speech. The stammering response at least has the advantage of seeming genuine.

Stammering

Your thoughts on this subject are pretty much mine. I can just about hear what was going on in Obama's mind when he heard the ludicrous twaddle thrown at him for the upmteenth time. What, again? As for the Ayers nonsense, I can imagine a snappy zinger forming in his formidable mind, only to be instantly supressed. I'm reminded of Al Gore, whose biggest sin during the farcial "debates" with dumbya was his inability to conceal his loathing for the callow ignoramus he was forced to occupy the same stage with. Barack Obama is more mentally adroit than anyone Iv'e seen in a long time. He's a real class act, as is his wife.

Sorry to say that having an

Sorry to say that having an association with a anti-American terrorst is not nonsense! as for class act..Obama is just a Pom pas A_ _ and his wife is a loud mouth that is also just as Anti-American as her husbands associates... He may win the nomination but will never be President. A formidable mind yes indeed..LOL thats why he stood by the varmit jumping ignoramus religious fanatic racist for Twenty years...That people are ready for change of a person that they have lowered thier standards blindly is another thing..That is why he may win the nomination..I am sure that if we knew about his anti-american friends he would not be where he is now...Keep drinking the Kool aid he gives you....Jones did the same thing and his followers did not wind up on the winning side did they?

Fool me once..

One more note...it appears Hillary twisted the truth on Wednesday night regarding the Ayers comments, published on Sept 11, 2001. The article was published by the New York Times on that fated day by pure coincidence. It was based on an interview with Ayers weeks earlier. So the text was not about his regret for not planting more bombs in light of the tragic events that day. His comments were set against events 40 years ago; reprehensable sentiment by Ayers, but the point is that Hillary knew this, but spun the story falsly to re-enforce Barack's pastor's stupid remarks on 9/12 - thus marrying the two together and twisting that knife. It's another example of he dishonesty...Can she be believed? Fool me once....

Fool you never if you would get informed!

Obama’s ‘Christian’ Connections: ———————————————— William Ayers - American Terrorist Raul Reyes - Columbian Terrorist Antonio Rezko - Muslim Slum Lord Professor Khalidi - Muslim Terrorist Supporter Reverend Wright - Racist N.O.I. Muslim Supporter/Preacher Louis Farrakhan - Racist N.O.I. Muslim Supporter/ Faux Preacher Nadhmi Auchi - Muslim Billionaire Sohaib Abassi - Muslim Millionaire Rea more here: http://www.audacityofhypocrisy.com

Homeopathy

I think his occasional stuttering performance was coupled with some very cogent and persuasive rhetoric. In response to his Ayers connection, he cleverly identified kooks on the right that he knows - thus stating the obvious that politicians mix with a broad spectrum, occassionaly even with fanatics on either end. After Hillary twisted the knife she new would be thrust, by saying that Barack also served on a board with Ayers and that the connection warrants further investigation (wink, wink Fox News)... he pointed out that Billy commuted the sentences of two of Ayers colleagues in the Weather Underground...hmm, she didn't see that coming. So on balance, his wisdom was apparent and his DECENCY was undeniable. Which is the formula that has made his campaign successful at beating the Clinton Brand. So PM, don't you give up on that formula....Its worked. Barack simply needs to prepare a bit more. That's why this debate was good for him, it's blindsided smear tactics should have a Homeopathic affect on his preparation for future debates with McCain.

Agreed

As ridiculous as the debate was, it is exactly the kind of bunk he will face in the general. It will truly be a test if the greater population has had enough of the old style politics or if they will once again succumb to fear. The overall effect of the debate was Obama ably handling non-issues. Sure he stumbled here and there but I think he won with one phrase- The commander in chief sets the mission. I loved that. We've heard the same BS for years while the truth is not about listening to the generals, it's about telling the generals. The mission is get us the hell out of there, make it happen. Yes sir, Mr. President. Nuff said.

Excuses

Stumbles, Studders, idiotic comments on the cut of taxes all equal weakness.. Yeah he gives a good speach, full of what people want to hear. He diverts the real issues into race...nice to have the racial credit card ( just like AX) but eventually the bill will come! Poor guy at the debate he truly looked flustered,confused but its understandable this debate, the questions were different for each candidate and he could not follow Hillary's lead....Poor guy! Now he weins and weins...Well I also say like Truman.. If you can take the heat get out of the Kitchen..and guess what this is just the beginning! Looooosssssserrrr

FACTS.....

Your ignorant ASS wrote:

"Yeah he gives a good speach (??!??)......Now he weins and weins (again,...??!??)...Well I also say like Truman.. If you can take the heat get out of the Kitchen.."

If your simple-minded ASS is going to quote someone, at least, LOOK IT UP....so that you can quote them correctly, dim-wit. Does your silly quote......REALLY MAKE ANY SENSE?

Its easy to see how you Hannity-youth, mental midgets, can fall prey to the inane, vacuous, beliefs that you steal from racist-rag sheets like audacityofhypocrisy.com----it is no more than a good meeting place for fellow feeble-minded numb-nuts like you to exchange what YOU ALL think are REVELATIONS--(look it up).

Its OK when you keep your septic-tank screeds among your own ilk--but when you cross the line--and bring it over to progressive threads....you can bet, I'M going to call your retarded, mentally deficient ass out on it! You folks don't even have the intelligence to be honest with yourselves about the so-called "facts"--you've dredged up from stupid companion sites like Gretawire..(all FOX-financed)---where you can all get your 1st grade level comments, (and lies,) "polished up" for the 'big-leagues'....I guess you think you've graduated up to that level.....well,..we'll see. Bring what you got, chump,.....I'm waiting.

stammering

I can't watch any more debates. Obama won't do any more debates. He has been fully vetted. I stammer sometimes too when confronted by ignorance and sophomoric behavior from someone I had some admiration for before they opened their mouth against me in public. "Lets see if we can destroy him, like Fox News does!" "It's really cool, you should try it!" The possibility that a thoughtful, intelligent person of character could be elected president was only a smoldering wick of hope for me before Obama came on the scene. I see his experience in the underworld as positive assets for a president of this time in history. The fact that the multiple gleeful attempts to assassinate his character have failed convince me that his character is resilient and strong as well as true. And Michelle! How adorable is she?

We're ALL Stammering....

GLK: you wrote:

" I can't watch any more debates. Obama won't do any more debates."

Nor should he. After Pennsylvania, when she doesn't win by the desired range of double digits, (IF, she wins at all)--funding will start to dry up significantly. She can't (and won't be able to) access the 100 million plus--set aside for the general.

Therefore, she can only do--what she has been doing for the last month---keep trivial, non-relevant issues before the media. Like someone said: the beast must be fed. She, whether its a significant win or not, come next Tuesday, will continue her public attacks because it is the ONLY thing that still gives her any kind of relevancy, at all. It will take a GROUP defection of delegates to Obama (which I suspect will be the case in N.C.), to finally force HRC to 'retire'. I find it interesting that even components of the media are now saying: 'there's nothing left to talk about'. As the ABC debate proved---when you don't talk about relevant issues--there is nothing to talk about !

This has been the case for weeks now, but again, "the beast must be fed". So they'll continue to manufacture false issues and allow HRC a platform to keep spewing her desperate blabberings----and we'll all have to keep enduring it, all the while, fooling ourselves....that its all, somehow, "good" for the party---to keep airing our dirty laundry in public---while McSame is laughing all the way to 1600.

Yes Indeed!

Obama will not do any more debates because he can not afford more Flops...Oh how pathetic he looked!!!!He truly proved how unprepared he is to be President! What will he do when he becomes the nominee and he has to debate without Hillary to give him his lead......Poor guy he won't have Hillary to follow her lead and he will have to again answer the tough questions on his own,,,and that means more Obama Flops! and another Republican President! but that certainly would be better than having a President that has a mentor of Twenty Years that hates America and its people and all his connections Like: ———————————————— William Ayers - American Terrorist Raul Reyes - Columbian Terrorist Antonio Rezko - Muslim Slum Lord Professor Khalidi - Muslim Terrorist Supporter Reverend Wright - Racist N.O.I. Muslim Supporter/Preacher Louis Farrakhan - Racist N.O.I. Muslim Supporter/ Faux Preacher Nadhmi Auchi - Muslim Billionaire Sohaib Abassi - Muslim Millionaire Rea more here: http://www.audacityofhypocrisy.com Great refrences if you like that kind of stuff for the next President of the most powerful nation...scary!

Hey Dumb-Ass!!

Don't follow up my post with your ignorant dribblings at 2 A.M. in the morning!!---Especially when you think you can lodge all your bull-shit on this thread AFTER everyones retired.

In addition, besides being simple-mindedly redundant--DON'T come to me with the stupid rantings of your racist, ignorant, hate-spewing "brothers-in-arms" from that FOX News-financed, (and backed) hate-rag: audacityofhypocrisy.com! You cowards collect all the out-dated rumors and screed that any of you can find----and any RETARDED-ASS, white-hood wearing clowns AMONGST YOU comes up with--then you post on that sorry excuse for a thread.

You'd do much better to sit there and TRY to imagine (and devise) HOW YOUR BOY, that senile, lying old, dingy-toothed fool----McInsane--- will defend himself against his criminal ties to lobbyists, his past S & L savings scandal, his reckless, jejune, arrogant escapades that got over a 100 sailors killed from one of HIS foolish pranks--and then, Daddy bailing him out of it; he can also start practicing his "straight-talk" when the questions arise about him leaving his first wife for that over-painted, adulterizing, silver-spoon in mouth, plagiarizing, self-centered, one-dimensional, bubble-headed, plastic-ass "Barbie-Doll" wife of his, Cindy. Yeah----I can see the "family-values" being "straight-talked"---even now.

So when you want to post on here concerning my comments----BE A MAN---PUNK!!--and address them when I'm on here---not 6 to 8 hours later--when you think the coast's clear---you douche-bag.

Totally adorable.

And as a bonus, she's incredibly smart, talented and candid. She'll make an incredible first lady!

Who?

Cindy? Yes indeed! or Bill-Gorgeous and a better economy tooo

Katey Couric, where were you when we needed you?

The ABC debate answered the question being posed last week whether Couric had the gravitas to host a Presidential debate. She could do no worse than the ABC tag team. But that's to be expected of a broadcast network; remember that they frequently broke for commercials? This is the Entertainment Business, not anything serious, like interviewing for the Most Important Job in the World!!!

I agree that Obama was taken aback by the trivialities. He has matured and grown markedly throughout the campaign, and this was something he didn't expect. And it certainly looked like Hillary was prepared for it. Although Obama did have a response ready for the Weather Underground attack.

Does this indicate that he isn't ready for the job of Commander in Chief? Hardly. No one is ever prepared for that responsibility, until they've actually sat in the chair in the Oval Office for a couple of years (and some never become ready.) But I hope that, in this fall's debates against McSame, Obama responds to these garbage questions with the "W" response and then uses the rest of his allotted time to address a matter of consequence.

WARS R US

"Perma-war" does look like a good bumper phrase ......... hits back hard on the ubiquitous war monger phrases.

Curiously, for someone who many Americans believe might harbor Muslim sympathies, Obama just could be the most walk-the-talk Christian candidate for president ever?

Great phrase...

"perma-war" -- me likey!

First Law Of Holes

Whenever Hillary responded with more attacks, I kept thinking of the First Law of Holes, "Whenever you find yourself in a hole, the first thing to do is to stop digging."

She and the ABC twins just kept digging themselves deeper and deeper into the hole of irrelevancy.

...and then it hit me

I was sitting there thinking hmmmm, it only makes sense for a debate on national TV, watched by millions upon millions, to avoid any REAL issues. It seems to be part of the larger effort by the corporate controlled media to suppress, stifle and ignore issues like torture, perma-war, poverty, gas prcies, imminent financial doom, housing, high crimes by the current administration or anything else of substance. Keep it simple, superficial and light. Flag pins, guilt by association, taxes, basically fear based non-issues. Obama's stuttering and stammering may have been out of incredulity that this was actually happening. A complete and utter snow job of the American people by the corporate media. Or maybe I'm just paranoid.

Utter Amazement

I was certainly expecting Obama to be hit on the so-called "elistist" issue, but I never expected such as massive hit job, and I'm sure he didn't, either. I thought about the utter unfairness to both candidates, who spend time preparing their arguments for their policy positions on torture, perma-war (yes, I like the term, too), poverty, gas prices, etc., only to have none of those topics come up. Of course he was exasperated -- he never dreamed that ABC would stoop so low.

That said, I was struck by one other thing. Clinton, to me, kind of looked like she was in on the joke. I had to wonder: was she? Couple that with the audience shots of only Chelsea or Clinton's other supporters and there's a solid case to be made that ABC was doing a hit job on Obama. There's no defense for any of that. No matter what Stephanopolous says.

Bravo!!!

I say Bravo to Setphanopolous and Charly It was about time the press stop giving Obama a free pass! What did he think he was going to ramin the messiah for ever... Axelrod woke up this morning and asked Obama Did it hurt? and Obama said..Did what hurt? The fall from heaven!!! Obama said it won't happen again! I know Axelrod said you won't be falling from heaven the next time..you will be falling from earth! LOL

Utter Amazement--Part II

Darlene, like you, I too, felt that there was or had been, some kind of before-hand wink and nod between HRC and George S.---an ex-sycophant is STILL a sycophant---only one OWING favors to ex-bosses. Obama's stuttering and stammering seemed to be one of being totally caught off-guard by all these much discussed non-issues----again, and then, realizing he was caught in a rigged game. He must have felt like he was trapped in a Deja-Vu Twilight Zone episode---played on a loop. In addition, there was an instance where he called HRC---on Bill's pardon of Weathermen in the past--when the audience applauded--Charlie was quick to squelch their involvement; and then he proceeded to promptly go back on the attack.

The corpo-media is indeed, a separate, self-interested only entity with simply too much power to continue to be so intimately involved in the debate process. Why is it debates can't be administered by, say, college economic professors, or ex-military strategists, or political science teachers, or those with specific in-subject knowledge germaine to the issue, or PANELS of the above?? WHY does it have to be conducted by these ignorant, narcissistic, corpo-media interests? THEY ASSUME TOO MUCH, WHEN THEY THINK---FOR US, that there is no 'entertainment-value' in the above. If I want the type of 'value' they like to present in politics----I'd be an "American Idol" viewer. These people are only interested in relaying the corporate/republican message, while drawing their million-dollar plus salaries. I find it particularly specious that there will be a panel of four or five of these talking heads millionaires discussing the mind-set of 'working-class' people, and their issues with, say, the mortgage crisis. Its utterly amazing!! These type of one-sided, obvious attempts to push the corporate interests candidate of choice ---will, I believe cause a ground-swell of rebellion that I think they, (corpo-media)REALLY need to be concerned about. The masses are stirring, and we are angry, and yes,.....bitter.

While typing this, I see they (the media) are now,---raising as this week-ends NEW issue: whether Obama made an obscene gesture (Shot a one-finger salute) to HRC while discussing their Pa. debate----Jeez! WHEN, OH WHEN, will Hillary's supporters in Pa. wake up, and SEE they have the power to end this 'silly season'----next Tuesday. Somebody in Pennsylvania------pleeeeez, for the sanity of the country!! End this---now!

Obama's Kool Aid

Hey all you Obama supporters! Stop drinking the Obama Kool Aid..eventually you will be suffering from diahria!

TAKE THAT KOOL-AID-----

......and flush that cavity out---where your pea-brain is suppose to be....(in your case....ITS CALLED AN ENEMA). Again, you wrote:

"Stop drinking the Obama Kool Aid..eventually you will be suffering from diahria!"....

diahria? diahria?.....(WTF)???

ooops

"perma-war" = great phrase. Accidentally posted above....

take a walk

I think I rather take a walk with our man of the people from his mansion to the barber shop bill from ct