Barack Obama and the Emotional Power of Reason

THE FIFTH COLUMNIST by P.M. Carpenter

As great oratory goes, Barack Obama's race speech rivaled JFK's inaugural address, Lincoln's second, and virtually anything ever spoken by FDR. The national jury came in with that unanimous decision after very little deliberation, so I repeat it here without fear of hyperbole.

But his was more -- much more -- than just great oratory. It was, in addition, that rarest of displays -- that of a politician in possession of an authentic and deep historical understanding of the American Experience.

This man does more than memorize and re-heave the latest and hottest-button talking points scribbled by jaded advisers designed to position their guy with a short-term edge. He's a profound thinker, for the benefit of the long haul, and he uniquely invites the nation to think along with him.

That's unprecedented in my lifetime, and was enlightening enough as well to finally move me from mere opposition to one candidate to confident support of another. It takes a lot of something quite powerful to stir a bona fide cynic, but Obama stirred this one.

He did it through the use of an open, personal and pragmatic reasoning power that reminded me of Franklin Roosevelt's fireside chats -- exhortations of splendid leadership, for sure, but also artfully crafted and gentle reminders that we all need to be on the same page before we can effectively move forward.

His speech was the stuff of the professorial without the haughtiness. Between the lines Obama was asking, simply, Do you get it? Do you understand what I'm saying here? Because if you don't, I'll gladly back up and we'll go over this material one more time. And we'll keep going over it until everyone understands. It's not that difficult, really. It's just that no one in my political position has ever asked anything of you before.  

Other politicians ask only for your vote. Obama is asking for your heart and mind. And he seems to genuinely care less about personal power and next-hump victories than national reconciliation through individual comprehension.

Understanding precedes constructive action, if, that is, the action is to take root in real and lasting change. 

Never have I heard a politician so courageously confront the sadly manifest, which other politicians spend lifetimes merely exploiting for temporary advantage:

We have a choice in this country. We can accept a politics that breeds division, and conflict, and cynicism. We can tackle race only as spectacle – as we did in the OJ trial – or in the wake of tragedy, as we did in the aftermath of Katrina - or as fodder for the nightly news. We can play Reverend Wright’s sermons on every channel, every day and talk about them from now until the election, and make the only question in this campaign whether or not the American people think that I somehow believe or sympathize with his most offensive words. We can pounce on some gaffe by a Hillary supporter as evidence that she’s playing the race card, or we can speculate on whether white men will all flock to John McCain in the general election regardless of his policies.

We can do that. But if we do, I can tell you that in the next election, we’ll be talking about some other distraction. And then another one. And then another one. And nothing will change.

True, those words were necessarily devoted to the race issue. But the sentiment inside addressed every issue lingering on the table -- we can keep buying the slop that's peddled by pols for their benefit, or we can stop, think and say, at long last, No more. The tawdry game of the old politics of personal advantage through group division stops here and now. We wish to come and reason together, but first we must understand.

That's all that Obama was saying, but considering the quotidian servings of dumbed-down and diversionary garbage served up by the business-as-usual political class, it was a lot, a whole lot, and it was profound.

Nothing I've written here was anything you probably didn't hear from the vastly arrayed, network commentariat yesterday. For that redundancy, I apologize. But I would make one observation about the commentariat itself, which I did not hear expressed.

Now keep in mind this is no statistically verifiable sociological survey, but it occurred to me that the women commentators, by and large, seemed to "get it" far better than the males, by and large. One can speculate as to the why, and in the process foolishly get oneself into a lot of hot water. But I'll take the foolish plunge.

Obama's speech required emotional concessions as much as intellectual engagement -- and again, it seemed to me, and perhaps me only out of some old-school and deeply engrained sexist bias, that the women's reception embraced both, as they are better culturally equipped to do. The men, on the other hand, often preferred to trail off on the political mechanics of it all -- this part worked, that part didn't, could be trouble.

In brief, the women seemed to be urging on these collectively assorted insensitive brutes: This man Obama is trying to say something that transcends your superficial obsession with political tactics, you nitwits. Try, for once, opening your hearts as well as your minds and perhaps you can then profitably absorb the full and enlightening impact.

Which is strikingly counterintuitive when you stop to think about it, since it's women that Obama the man has always had the greatest challenge with electorally.

 

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Obama is probably one of the best speakers I have ever heard. He is probably no doubt the best manipulator I have ever heard. This is a speech he "had" to give to save his campaign. His message was to side step his involvement with his "Un-American pastor", & introduce the old racial "guilt" trip back on to America. This was never about race, it was about Patriotism. But he has used the race card again to his advantage. Why people cannot see that he plays the race card every chance he gets, I don't know. Even to compare what Geraldine Ferraro said, to his Pastor's rants was really over the top. She didn't say "God Damn America", she didn't say America started the Aids virus to kill off black people, she didn't say we deserved 911, she didn't say any of the disgusting things That Rev. Wright did. Why did he say that? Because he wants us to think Hillary's campaign has done the same thing as his Pastor has done. That's arrogant! Obama's campaign has been a well organized one. Axlrod, his campaign manager has a history of playing the race card. This is not the first time he has run a campaign using race. Easy stuff to look up, but seems to hard for some to do. Obama has lied over & over again, yet some of you don't acknowledge it. He lied about the Nafta thing, "It didn't happen', then "I didn't know about it" then "Canada misunderstood my Campaign advisor." Then the Canadian memo came out proving he had been lying all along. He lied about the indicted slum lord, I didn't hardly know him, "I only did about 5 hours of work for him." He's had dealings with him for over 10 years. "He only donated a little money to me." Then it was $50,000, then it was $150,000, then it was $250,000. There's more to come on this one. Then last friday night he made all the rounds on TV, telling everybody "I wasn't in the pew when my Pastor said anything derogatory." Then in his wonderful speech (and it was) he said "did I hear any derogatiry remarks while I was sitting in the Pew? Yes!!" They knew nobody was believing he didn't hear anything. He knew pictures or Video was going to show up. There's more, but maybe a pattern that you can see. All this only coming out when he was about to be caught. You have let him degrade the Clintons without any recourse. It fact Obama supporters & the Media have joined in to help him. President Clinton said no racist remarks, in fact he was very complimentarily to Obama & his campaign. Because he happened to mention Jesse Jackson & his 2 successful campaigns he all of sudden became a racist? Hillary mentions that it took a Democratic president to help MLK get his agenda thru congress, and that becomes a slander on MLK?? Obamas campaign got all that started with the Media. they sent the memo's out to the Media. Check it out, look it up, investigate this stuff. What do you think Tim Russert had in hand at the Ohio debate, when he asked Obama if he was going to stop this kind of stuff. It was 4 pages of race baiting memo's to their campaign staffers & the Media. Regardless of whether you like the Clintons or not, President Clinton & Hillary were the biggest supporters of the black people. That's why Black people call him their first Black President. Go to utube & punch Rev. Manning in & you'll get a bunch of Black Pastors that are condemning Obama for using the "race card". How come they know & we don't?? He's put the "race guilt" on America, & is playing it to the hilt! But,it was a great speech!!! He's one hellva speaker!

A Fitting St. Patrick's Week Message

Before battle ancient Celts would strip their clothes, paint their bodies, settle whatever little accounts they had outstanding, and had their eulogies read. Then they could face their foes with a clean conscience and a free hand. The outcome was left to the fates. Obama has done the very same. He faced his accusers, accounted for his choices, described our national dilemma, and warned us that the bell tolls for us. His slate is clear...Now the judgment is on us. Is America prepared for it's future...or are we captive to our past? Time will present our verdict.

It's sadly telling and true

Obama spoke of the politics of divisiveness that have been the status quo for the last ten years, and his detractors prove it by claiming he's nothing more than a smooth talker. Obama's words are inspiring because his ideas are inspiring. He's not trapped in that 'us v. them' mentality but he realizes how many people are and how hard he's going to have to work to change it. He's so presidential it's unbelievable that anyone would not want him to be the nominee. You'd never hear a speech like that from the Clinton camp. Hillary is just not capable of greatness. Donnat

Thanks for putting it so well

Perhaps the most telling follow-up to Obama's historic speech is that the Right [aka the Wrong] has no rebuttal other than to blatantly lie about what he actually said.

Unfortunately, this is adequate for the ~30% of the American electorate which is beyond hope of a reasonable dialog on anything.

Can we somehow persuade the DLC "Democrats" to just forget about appealing to them, and let the sane ~70% get on with fixing our so badly damaged nation now?

Percentages

I thought that the percentage of the American electorate that is beyond hope of a reasonable dialogue on anything is actually something like 51% of 32% (32% of the population that can vote who actually voted in the general election, and 51% of that 32% voted for bush). Yes, that small percentage of the country is responsible for all that's happened by virtue of their actions in the voting booth.

The 70% Solution

quousque, yours is a rarely discussed, yet critical observation. That 30% represents the population of linear, concrete thinkers who exercise their right to other people's nationalistic, xenophobic opinions. They are easily programmed and easily organized.

And nestled comfortably within their ranks are the Brown Shirts who can always be counted on to take it to the next level of nationalistic fervor.

The health of the republic is measured by how loud a voice this 30% is given, how much influence they are allowed. The Bush regime has catered to them, fed them and just about let them off the leash.

I divide this 30% into 3 categories: Blind Faithers, Willful Ignorants, and last but not least, FDA's. (The 'D' stands for dangerous. I'll leave the 'F' and 'A' to your imagination.)

McCain, by shaking the hand of Jerry Falwell, John Hagee and Tim Lahaye, has demonstrated that he has bought into this very Straussian form of social control.

That 30% can bring the walls crashing down. It's up to the rest of us to keep that from happening. In order to do that, we have to keep the privileged few from setting us at each other's throats to their snide amusement... and survival.

Good job

One addition to your rogues gallery - I would say most of the 30 Percenters are Lizard-brained! Given the almost universal obesity characteristic of this 30% crowd (save Ann Coulter), it's likely they all suffer sleep loss through apnea. They've got all the tell-tale signs: lethargic energy levels (only exercise is tuning the AM dial); a generalized intellectual stupor, and most importantly their near manic emotional responses to normal stimulus. Their hypothalamus and adrenal glands are too big, and their cerebral cortex too small (to borrow a phrase). I suggest we send them to a warm climate where they can get regular exercise, fresh fruit and PLENTY OF SLEEP!

The Perfect Illustration

As someone who has worked in both inner city, minority and white, working class schools, I can testify that Obama's illustration of American racial issues was superlative. I've heard the frustration from both sides and am well aware of the reasons for those frustrations. He nailed them all.

Contemporary politics thrives on division, separating us by skin, gender, religion, and yearly salary. In the long run, the only people who benefit from that are the few fat cats at the top, who are only getting fatter.

Say what you will about his intentions, and God only knows everyone has a good reason to be cynical about everything, but Obama held up a looking glass and showed us both our flaws and finery.

And he included himself in the picture.

You don't have to vote for him. You don't have to believe he was sincere. That doesn't make the words any less great.

Personally, I find him genuine. If for no other reason, that speech won my vote.

The times they are a'changing...

I have been an Obama supporter since John Edwards dropped out of the race. The senator's speech yesterday convinced me I had made a mistake in not supporting him from the very beginning. Obama expressed, in exquisitely personal terms, the deep divide that persists in American race relations today. In this speech Obama illustrated how the personal and the political collide to create individuals - and how those individuals' passions can be exploited, for good and bad. Today, mostly bad. Obama has been straddling different worlds all his life: black/white; rich/poor; native/foreign, etc. etc. etc. Rather than choose between these worlds he has decided to try and bridge them. And the bridge he seems to want to use is Love and Understanding. Oh, and a healthy dose of Reason - all of which are sadly missing in our public dialog. I felt a true jolt of hope as I read over his words because it became clear to me that the tide is turning. The old order is changing. The might impede it, but they CAN'T stop it. It's time to play that old Dylan anthem again, 'you better start swimming or you'll sink like a stone...'

ENDORSE Obama

E MAIL JOHN EDWARDS AND BILL RICHARDSON AND ENCOURAGE THEM TO ENDORSE OBAMA IMMEDIATELY !!!!!!

Tell me about it

Why on earth are these guys being so silent? I did have to wonder if Edwards did something behind the scenes to encourage his delegates in Iowa, for example, to go over to Obama (though not all of them did). But even if he did that, why behind the scenes? Why not come out in the open and endorse Obama and help to bring an end to this primary bloodshed? I just don't understand it.

There is work to be done!

Mr Carpenter wrote, "That's unprecedented in my lifetime, and was enlightening enough as well to finally move me from mere opposition to one candidate to confident support of another. It takes a lot of something quite powerful to stir a bona fide cynic, but Obama stirred this one." This expresses my sentiments exactly. Yesterday, in addition to hearing Senator Obama's speech, which gave me hope. I was also given a rather nasty medical diagnosis that may well mark the beginning of the end. I also received a bit of nasty legal news that a that a corrupt judge and a group of racketeering lawyers who have been engaging me in a frivolous lawsuit, are going to try to quash my appeal to cover their misconduct. I am 52 years old, have no health insurance and I'm unemployed. Today is a day for reflection. Tomorrow, for the first time in my life, will be the day that I go out to the local college campus and try to register students to vote and enlist their support for Senator Obama. While I still have the physical stamina and my voice, I believe my vocation for this period of my life is to exercise my civic duty to attempt to change the course of this nation. I urge anyone else in Pennsylvania to use your free time to support Senator Obama. If I don't survive, as I have nearly nothing left, it would be a nice legacy for me to have done my part to leave this country in better hands. Jude Rene' Montarsi

The good fight

Jude, I'm praying both you and Obama win the good fight.

A Class Act

Once again Obama proves that he's a class act. He catapulted himself leagues beyond any current politician. Is America ready for him though? Can we get passed the nit-picking and casting judgments based on sound-bites? I'd like to think so but the more I believe in this guy, the more nervous I get. I've seen some pretty baffling things in the last eight years, starting with BushCo's coup. Somehow I wouldn't be surprised if the rug got pulled out from under us again and the stakes keep getting higher. To make matters worse, I'm a Canadian expat and can't even vote! The whole scene is giving me agita. Oy vey!

Class Act???

Obama joined Wright's church for a reason, just as he knew there was a reason the political fixer Tony Rezko was trying to seduce him. Obama is no fool. He gets to the edge of things. So on Tuesday, he stepped lightly, expertly shifting the debate about Wright to a wider debate on solid ground, about race and American hopes and American guilt. The above statements are from a Chicago Newspaper. Obama is a great speech maker and everyone is in awe. Is it the same "Shock and Awe" presented to us by the Bush Administration? This man uses race as a tool! The debate will continue with the voters as to why he maintained membership and donations to a minister and church, which preaches hate. Is he going to correct the wrongs done to the Indians when our government reaped unknown horrors on all the tribes? Is he going back to Africa and correct the wrongs done by the African tribes that sold their brothers into slavery? The truth is that the white men did not alone do slavery. History shows that many, have been slaves, no matter the skin color. The guilt for America is that black and white are both to blame. There is as much racism in the black community as in the white community. Obama is going to continue using his race and plying his America is guilty theories as long as it helps him in the polls!

Neva

Obama did not choose to give this speech on race, he HAD to give it. He has never been the one in this campaign to bring up race... it has always been his opponents, who have tried to use race divisively. Politicians know how sensitive this stuff is. Hillary supporter, Bob Kerrey knew when he talked about Barack Hussein Obama growing up in a Muslim country and attending a "madrassa". Other Hillary supporters have repeatedly made racially charged comments, the latest being Geraldine Ferraro who said that Obama wouldn't be where he is if he weren't Black. She knew exactly what she was doing when she said it, she was forcing the conversation on to race, which is hurtful to Obama's candidacy. You have allowed these people to manipulate you. Please provide a link to the Chicago newspaper you were quoting, if you would. I'm going to give them a piece of my mind.

You left out the most important word -- "falsely"

You left out the most important word:

"Bob Kerrey knew when he falsely talked about Barack Hussein Obama growing up in a Muslim country and attending a 'madrassa'".

Clinton's surrogate spoke falsely. Obama never attended a madrassa (a religious Muslim school). Actually, Kerrey said Obama attended a "secular madrassa," which was a nonsensical oxymoron - like saying someone attends Sunday services at a "secular Roman Catholic church.

Weren't you listening?

"There is as much racism in the black community as in the white community." Apparently you were so prepared to react negatively to Obama's speech that you missed him make this very same point. He said it clearly and repeated it in different ways, so it is odd that you did not take notice. So, let me say it in my own way: Racism has been the scourge of this continent since the day that Europeans first set foot on its shores. It took its most virulent form in the institution of slavery. We, as a society, are still dealing with its effects. This applies to blacks as well as whites. Reverend Wright's intemperate statements were his response to the racial injustices that he had personally experienced and witnessed in his own life. Understand them in that context, and they do not seem so terribly misplaced. We can either seriously face up to the challenges that racism poses, or we can turn our heads and ignore the elephant in the room. If you or anyone else truly believe that Barack Obama hates this nation, then you are probably not inclined to care about any of the above. The rest of us will try to make progress in spite of you.

Listening??

The point of listening is to take in account the listener. You interpret what you read into his speech and anyone that doesn't agree is out in left field. Racism comes in all forms and to think this man is capable of meeting that challenge head on is pathetic. In fact, if you think that the common man is going to challenge it head on, forget it. I grew up in the segregated south and I know what it was like. So for you to tell me, I do not care about any of the above, is out in left field also. You are talking to someone that lived it. Do I hate America for it???? NO!!!!! I feel more empathy for the American Indians. I did not say Obama hates this nation, but apparently he sat and listened and supported a man of questionable character. He also supported a man of corruption. This man is using race to get away from answering a lot more questions. He seems to use both the whites and the blacks to increase his popularity in the polls. All I want is someone that is able to make the right choices. He does not seem that man. While the progressives smear anyone and everyone to make their point, they are unable or will not accept that others have a different view! That is why the supporters are on the borderline of a cult group. As far as I am concerned the elected president can be white, purple, green or any other of the rainbow colors, as long as they show a leadership quality. I am not dazzled by Obama's speech on his reason for supporting a minister and church, that take aim at my nation, whether he is black or white. I have no use for any of them and those that support them!

Same Ol'.......Same Ol', You!

Ya know, Neva------we've had our run-ins and since then, I have read many of your posts and have tried to figure out what makes you tick. Frankly, you're somewhere between an anamoly and an aberration. I'm not being disparaging here. Lets look at what I think I know about you. One, you're a female(I quess)--either a white or black one. Two, you've already stated that you're not a Hillary backer (you claim you supported Edwards---now, Nader). Three, you're angry,vaque, and obtuse----all vent and rage; with no substance(this bespeaks of some type of agenda). So given this, lets look at you. You're not being fair, for one, jcarv brought up very relevant points that HE GLEANED from yesterdays speech, and was absolutely dead-on as to what WE (as progressives) should aspire to. But that msg is utterly lost on you. He's right, there IS something missing within you---its the spirit of progressivism! I think too, that askolnick hit it on the head about you---the more you post, the more obvious it is...that you're about as much a progressive as I am your Daddy! And---you should worry more about being perceived as a racist yourself then trying to portray Obama as one. Sure, I know what you're gonna do---cry about we 'cultists' attacking you ad-hominem---go ahead, that has always been your ploy; thats all you do. Rant and criticise, and then hide behind imaginary 'cultist-attacks' on you. You keep claiming you're gonna take your ball and go home---well.....do it, for God's sake! All you do here is incite divisionary view-points under guise of being a Hillary (or, at least, progressive)advocate. At least with Hillary-backers its an 'in-family' debate, that will eventually be ironed out in the general election. BUT with you, it dawned on me that the TRUE Hillary posters have not even posted very much today---because I believe, in fairness to OUR cause---they're weighing yesterdays words and whats best for OUR party and country. Things to be considered in future, perhaps more fairer, lucid arguments--on both sides. Also, as stated elsewhere, you seemed pre-programmed to disregard ANYTHING he had to say. So therefore, you can only be one of two things----either a black woman or white one. If black--(which I doubt), you could not have been raised in the South (of all places), in the Black community, in Black churches, in Black homes, exposed to the writings and philosophies of MLK, and now, SEE the embodoment of that belief personified in Obama---and be as unfair and angrily partisan against him as you are; many Black women wrestled with this dilemma at the beginning of this campaign, and deduced (I presume) that It was more important to advocate the PEOPLE over the GENDER; and the primary numbers bear this out----with this back-drop, your mind-set is simply not logical. If white, (I believe) and from the South, you need to be careful---there is a great divide between YOUR sense of self vs. what others see with you. You wrote,"I grew up in the segregated south and I know what it was like....I do not care about any of the above...You are talking to someone that lived it." How? You failed to elaborate on what that experience was. Were you a minority there? or...Were you a 'southern belle', or one of those self-delusional, guilt-ridden, 'southern flowers' who have convinced themselves---they LOVE minorities?!? Or maybe what the media loves to call a 'working-class' white---who FEARS the rise of minorities--as represented by Obamas campaign...you tell us, which is it?? But most of your expressions reek with the stench of the new racism in the "new" South. You wrote: "You know, I did not say Obama hates this nation,...BUT, apparently he sat and listened and supported a man of questionable character....that take aim at MY nation". Er,...OUR nation, even HIS nation?!? There is so much in this line that it would take another post to examine it. Given that you don't support Hillary--you are not even the 'other half' of the debate on this site, further evidence of the type of 'progressive' you are---which is what? Lastly, given that all you do is rail against progressives (as a whole) and we're all so hopeless---in the midst of your vents lies the truth--you sound IDENTICAL to those closet right-wing nuts that have been flooding progressive sites (and elections) with the sole purpose of creating disruption. You wrote: "While the progressives smear anyone and everyone to make THEIR point, THEY are unable or will not accept that others have a different view!" This is CLASSIC ditto-head, FOX merchants arguments! It should make you wonder why so many progressives are so leery of you as a (former, I presume?)'progressive'. If this is so, it makes more sense, you are so DEEPLY afraid of Obama and what he portends with the power of the presidency to affect change, that you will desparately employ any devious means to sabotage this movement(as becca77 was stating). All anyone has to do is go back and check your posts from the above perspective and it becomes apparent that you aren't a progressive; nor are you a Hillary-backer, nor a Democrat; you're nothing but a Repug shill causing dissention.

Neva "grew up in the segregated south"

and that explains a lot, frankly, Neva. Tell us honestly... would you ever vote for any Black American? Your experience growing up was apparently different than mine. There is obviously more to Reverend Wright than those harsh anti-American statements, but I have to say that I understand what he was trying to do for his black congregation. And I can see now, that Obama wouldn't have the deep understanding of history and race that he has, if he hadn't attended a black church and listened to the Reverend (who is apparently widely respected in spite of his controversial remarks). We can't learn anything if we just look away, if we won't listen. Are you incapable of understanding what Rev. Wright was trying to do? An 8,000 member black congregation filled with Americans who have felt no respect, certainly not from our government. Black Americans who have sent their children to die in wars, who have lived with an ever-present sting of racism in this country, could go to church on Sunday and hear that America may not respect them, but America isn't always right about everything. They also heard what every Christian hears in church, about caring for the poor, and being your brother's keeper, and so on. Don't be so judgemental, Neva, and I hope you take a long look in the mirror. Anyone who wasn't touched by that speech should be wondering why... something is missing in you, I believe.

So that's where he learned to blame the victim

Neva says he grew up in the segregated South. That probably is where he learned to blame the victim.

In his previous message, he claimed that blacks in America are just as much to blame for slavery and racial persecution as whites.

That is the rationalization of racial bigots. It is the same kind of vile revisionism we hear from Neo-Nazis, who say the Jews brought the Holocaust onto themselves.

This is nothing but a hate-monger's attempt to deny redress to their victims: "Stop complaining; you're as much to blame for the ill that was done you as anyone else."

Throughout history, bigots have always tried to justify their evil acts by projecting their blame onto their victims.

Regardless of the color or our skin, we should never allow any of them to revictimize their victims.

Still not listening

And why is Obama not capable of meeting the challenge of racism head on? It would seem that with this very forthright and courageous speech, he has made a good start. I have never heard him suggest that it is he, alone, who will eradicate racism from our society; it is we, the people, who must do it. Obama can only be a catalyst in that process. I have no idea if your objection to him comes from the left, right or in between, but you seem to be dismissing the man as fraud with very little on which to base it other than your strongly held opinion that he must be a fraud. I almost get the feeling that you believe that racism is here to stay, so we should just accept it. If I am wrong, then please inform us how you think society should deal with endemic racism. Also, if you truly don't think that Obama hates America, then why should we care what his pastor said? If it is a matter of guilt by association, then consider that there are few people alive who are not guilty of things they never thought or did.

Danger! Troll Crossing

Neva Stoltz is a troll. Most likely a Repugnican troll. Only a Repugnican troll would dare compare Sen. Obama's uplifting speech yesterday with Bush's illegal "Shock and Awe" bombing of Iraq.

"The truth is that the white men did not alone do slavery. ... The guilt for America is that black and white are both to blame."

Anybody else hear an echo of the Neo-Nazi revisionists' claim that Jews have themselves to blame for the Holocaust?

One of the oldest and sleaziest tactics of right-wing thugs is to blame their victims. The Jews brought it on themselves. The blacks have themselves to blame for being slaves and suffering beneath the yoke and noose of Jim Crow.

"Obama is going to continue using his race and plying his America is guilty theories as long as it helps him in the polls!"

Is there any rational person left who believes Obama benefits from having voters focus on race? That argument is nonsense, considering how black Americans are outnumbered by all the closet and overt racists like Neva, who continue blaming the victims of racism for the centuries of white hatred and oppression they have endured.

I can't speak for black Americans, but as a white American, I've had enough of them. I will not tolerate their race-baiting.

Another progressive cult member!

Hey! you seem to be speaking for all black Americans and white Americans. As for being a Neo-Nazi, take a look in the mirror. The progressives are acting like they can smear and dump on anyone that is outside their view. As for an American, I have had enough of you people. Take a walk on the wild side and start your own political group so you can really destroy America, with your smear tactics and unethical campaign of outrageous!

Deconstructing a Dittohead

Neva Stoltz, who argues that blacks are as much to blame as whites for centuries of slavery and discrimination, further tips his Limbaugh dittohead hand:

"The progressives are acting like they can smear and dump on anyone that is outside their view. As for an American, I have had enough of you people."

"Take a walk on the wild side and start your own political group so you can really destroy America, with your smear tactics and unethical campaign of outrageous!"


That sounds like many of the incoherent rants posted on Rush Limbaugh's hate site.

What perplexes me...

is that every time a black person talks about race in America...they are said to be a racist. First of all have you looked up the word racism...no wait, let me do that for you: noun 1. a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others. Now let me ask you a question: when did Dr Wright ever say that he or any black person was superior to white people or any other people? What he did state was that rich white people don't/can't identify with the struggles of poor black people (poor people in general). This is a true statement. Another question: All this talk about the church and its creeds regarding black liberation theology...tell me why this is racist. It is self-help for black folks. I thought you all believed in self-help. Or is it that you don't want black folks to get anywhere...you like it when we are down. Every time we have tried to pull ourselves together either a group that is racist or the government has destroyed either the person running it or the group itself: Martin, Malcolm, the black panther party, rosewood, black wall street, etc. The list goes on. What you should do instead of offering history we all know about...dig deeper and look up some history for yourself. I would be happy to help you with that. When he talked about race in America...it had a tendency to make people uncomfortable...unfortunate for you, but black folks have been dealing with this race issue in one way or another all of our lives. The thing is...we try to flesh it out and make things better...some white folks like to put it to the side and act as if things are all peachy. There are a lot of white liberals who do this...maybe you are one of them. We will never get over this race thing until whites and black flesh this out. Your attempt at a history lesson is funny. Last time I checked, there weren't any white tribes to sell off their black slaves in Africa. So your argument is both well taken, cause most folks already knew that and silly because it couldn't have been any other way. And by the way, America is guilty...guilty of a lot of stuff that it has yet to atone for. Wow...it amazes me that it is 2008 and we are still having a silly rehashing of race in America, with its still unresolved issues. And when black folks mention it, we are racist. WOW! White folks can't get it together...first it's okay for Sen. Obama to be sorta black but now that you are convinced he is really black....you can't stand it. Sorry for you. I am sure you wouldn't have voted for him anyway. Good. I think if we can separate the wheat from the shaft on this one…we would be doing ourselves a favor. Rebecca mcdonald_becca@yahoo.com

Barack Obama and the Emotional Power of reason

Thanks for your column. I agree with much of what you had to say. Listening to the speech last night brought tears of joy and relief to my heart. I was happy that we have been blessed with a leader that we so urgently need; someone who can help us improve ourselves by thinking and feeling things through together with us. I’d like to offer you one small point of criticism concerning your remarks. I too had the same response to some of the talk after the speech that focused on the political mechanics. I too felt that Barack Obama was offering us much more than that and we should learn from him. Your response to the speech was great. It would have been even greater if you had refrained from calling some of your fellow American’s nitwits. We all have a lot to learn and a lot to do, and name calling will not help us accomplish what this leader is asking and helping us to do. Please give this criticism some thought. You have much to offer this dialogue. Thanks for your columns. I have only recently discovered them and find them to be very worthwhile reading. Can you guess my gender? H.

It was a great speech

Well, actually, rhetorically, poetically, he's had better. What was great about this was the generosity of spirit in it, and the living human intellect, grappling with all sides of a problem, and showing us how we're all a big part of the problem -- and the solution. Speaking as a Hillary supporter, this is the kind of thing that makes me waver. What does not make me waver, and what embitters me and many, many other people, is the kind of attitude that is new with Buzzflash. You don't just say, "Obama is the better candidate," or, "Well, he's lacking here, but all in all a great man. Or "Hillary's perspective is wrong here, because x, y, z." No, and Obama made a reference to it himself -- some want to hit him over the head about some stupid remarks made by his pastor, or bash Hillary over some stupid remarks made by Ferraro. Suddenly, this one sentence becomes proof of the skulduggery in the Clinton campaign, to "play the race card," when Ferraro is an old party standby, a Hillary supporter like a million others. No, Obama isn't there "just because he's black," but the nasty, prosecutorial tone that Buzzflash and other Obama supporters took about it is divisive. Hillary is a Democrat, after all. On some issues, I prefer her position. On some, Obama's. I prefer, as far as I know, NONE of McCain's positions. I am not a racist, and Hillary's supporters are not. Some within the Obama movement, and it is that, would be wise to read over his words today and think of themselves. These are the primaries. Hillary is a rival, not the enemy.

Agreed...

Thanks, Swift2, for giving voice to these issues in the nomination contest... Yes, a fine, inspiring speech that gives me some hope that Obama might have what it takes... As I've said before, I'll support either Obama or Clinton against McCain - the likely upcoming Supreme Court vacancies are reason enough alone for that...

And, yes, it is galling to have to wade through the Clinton bashing on this site, especially as evidenced by our most prolific poster on Buzz - askoldnick... He often makes some good points, but then tends to flush it away by turning everything into a "why Hillary Clinton is evil" diatribe - and, unfortunately, he's not alone in this attitude...

A fine example can be found in his reply to you when he wraps up with: "...dear lord, please protect this party from the Clintons"

Oh yeah, that sort of rhetoric is REAL helpful when directed at about half the Democratic base...

You could have fooled me

Hillary Clinton is not the enemy? Then why is she campaigning for Repugathug McCain? Why is she claiming McBush is a safer choice for Commander in Chief than the Democrat's likely nominee? Why are her surrogates claiming Sen. Obama is the leading candidate only because he's an unqualified and undeserving beneficiary of affirmative action?

You know, when people are shooting at you, it's a foolish to debate whether they're really enemies. They need to be stopped regardless of their intent or purpose.

If Clinton's increasingly desperate back-shooting is not stopped, the end result will be the same no matter how she's classified. It will be another win for the Repugnicans.

As that old saying goes, I know who my enemies are. Dear Lord, please protect me from my friends.

Friend or foe, dear Lord, please protect this party from the Clintons.