Debra Bartoshevich Betrays Women in Support of Choice by Stating that McCain is Not for Overturning Roe V. Wade When He is.

A BUZZFLASH NEWS ANALYSIS
by Meg White

Former presidential hopeful Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-NY) is scheduled to be the prime time speaker at the Democratic National Convention tonight. Her goal is to win her delegates over to the Obama campaign before she releases them for a roll call vote. But at least one of her supporters will be busy stuffing cotton in her ears.

Debra Bartoshevich is a former Clinton delegate from Waterford, WI who told the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel she'd be voting for Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) when the Democratic Senator from New York suspended her campaign for president. Since she had signed a form promising to support the Democratic nominee, state committee members told Bartoshevich she was no longer welcome in Denver this week. So she hitched a ride with the Republicans.

Soon after the Journal Sentinel story, she was scooped up by the McCain campaign in their "Citizens for McCain" project, which works to attract Democrats and independents. She was featured in a McCain campaign ad that was released this week in Denver. At a Republican Party-sponsored press conference unveiling the new ad, Bartoshevich answered questions from the media.  When asked about McCain's stance on Roe v. Wade, she seemed to indicate that his view mirrored hers:

"Going back to 1999, John McCain did an interview with the San Francisco Chronicle saying that overturning Roe v. Wade would not make any sense, because then women would have to have illegal abortions."

As for the truth of that statement (which the sneaky Carly Viagra's-the-same-thing-as-birth-control Fiorina let slide as she watched the press conference unfold), here's what happened:

Sure, McCain said that he would not overturn Roe v. Wade, which became a statement that he quickly and repeatedly retreated from. Today, he is unambiguously pro-life, with a voting record to back it up.

As several journalists have pointed out in the past few weeks, any real feminist would never side with John McCain on the issues. He is clearly anti-choice, and is very weak on women's issues. Only a voter or delegate playing identity politics could eschew the similar platform of Obama for the political antithesis of Clinton that McCain has become as he inches further and further to the right.

Watching Bartoshevich, she doesn't come off as particularly savvy. But I have a hard time believing that as a lifelong Democrat and a delegate she doesn't know what McCain will do to the Supreme Court and Roe v. Wade if he has the chance.

But maybe she does know, and she just doesn't care. She reportedly describes herself as a "pro-life independent" (even though she's also referred to herself as a lifelong Democrat several times since taking up with McCain's campaign). So that might explain why McCain's position on abortion doesn't bother her, and why she (up until the press conference yesterday) has done everything in her power to avoid answering questions from reporters about McCain and political issues. 

But that doesn't explain why she lied (or, to give the benefit of the doubt, repeated the RNC lie) about McCain's stance on Roe v. Wade. I can give a pass to the average American who doesn't know McCain's position on the subject. But Bartoshevich recited the year McCain said it, the publication he told it to, and reasons he gave at the time for supporting Roe v. Wade. Unless the woman has been in a coma for nine years, I have to believe she knows where McCain stands today. And, unsurprisingly, it seems to be on her side of the argument.

A simple Internet search shows McCain is most definitely anti-choice. His page on "Human Dignity and the Sanctity of Life" begins with the goal "Overturning Roe v. Wade" in big, bold letters.

In an interview with a local Wisconsin news station affiliated with ABC, Bartoshevich comes off as bitter, whining that no one in what she repeatedly and suspiciously calls the "Democrat Party" called her, and that McCain's campaign called her three minutes after Clinton's concession speech to have a nice chat. Another fishy piece of the interview comes when Bartoshevich mentions "pulling the lever" in the voting booth in Wisconsin, where electronic voting is widespread. She ends the interview with these heart-warming platitudes:

"I'm passionate about what I believe in.  I'm not going to change what I believe in because of a party. I'm going to do it because of America.  And I truly believe, again, that this is the greatest country and I'm going to do what I feel is right for my country."

While Bartoshevich says she's passionate about what she believes in, she doesn't, in the nearly nine-minute interview, or in the campaign ad she appeared in for McCain, ever say what that is exactly. She plays up identity politics, calling McCain a "maverick" and an "independent" while lauding his "experience and judgment." She cites McCain's carefully crafted image, without ever mentioning his right-wing platform.

It's hard to tell for sure whether Bartoshevich is a fake, a pawn, or a shill, but either way it's clear she's not for real. She shouldn't get to speak for Hillary Clinton supporters and delegates who are genuinely hurt and angered by the divisive primary campaign this year. If Bartoshevich really gave a damn about the Democratic Senator from New York, she'd leave it to Hillary Clinton speak to her own supporters.

A BUZZFLASH NEWS ANALYSIS 

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No way No how No McCain!

C'mon people - did anyone actually listen to Hillary's speech Tuesday?? If you wanna send an SOS (same old sheet) then by all means vote for mcbush. If you are mad because Hillary lost - then listen to her speech again ... and again ... If you are one of the sane people, thank you for voting for Barack! And if you are a troll ... be extra careful hanging out under those bridges ... some carefree liberals may come along and snip yer nose off. Choice question - the way things are going in the world (war, famine, drought, extreme climate changes, war, crashing economies, war) the question of choice for us women may just be whether to feed our children or grandchildren first and not eat anything ourselves because there's not enough bread on the table. If this country doesn't elect Barack/Biden and the democrats to office, our future looks very bleak indeed.

The Democratic Party is too busy spewing hate to run this nation

Nothing is more disgusting than viewing this site and reading all the hateful remarks made at anyone that doesn't agree with their chosen one. The corrupt politician from Illinois! Since the left wing has taken over the party, no wonder so many are leaving. The Democrats can take their party and celebrate with the right wing Republicans. They should join together and rename themselves the party of hate!

I wish.

If only the "left wing" had taken over the Democratic Party.

I wish.

If only the "left wing" had taken over the Democratic Party.

Neva Stoltz is a Republican Troll

This is a public service announcement that Neva Stoltz is a Republican troll. Her paid job is to obfuscate the true nature of this website and confuse Buzzflash readers. She neither cares about Buzzflash readers nor does she care about honesty and integrity. She is paid by the Republican Party to blog on this message board.

Nothing is more disgusting than viewing this site

A couple suggestions for you Neva Stoltz which may be more appropriate,since you show such disdain for "the left wing. "#1: You should watch Hillary's speech because I don't believe you watched it or you failed to comprehend the words coming from her mouth. #2:Vote for McCain.It sounds like you ,Tennismom,Yesman and several others have made up your minds. Go ahead and keep this country under the shadow of authoritarianism/fascism and reap what you sew. If you believe America is doing great and doing things vote for McCain. If he represents your views on the economy,"it is fundamentally sound," vote for McCain.If you support tax breaks for oil cos.and those with extreme wealth,telecom spying,torture and suspicion,$4.00+ gas,insurance for those that can afford it,$8000-$12000 a year,war on sovereign countries that did not attack us,Cheney's 1% doctrine and the list goes on and on and on,vote for the politics of the past,vote for John McCain. #3: There are several websites where I feel you would be more comfortable such as freerepublic,littlegreenfootballs and of course the ever reliables Michelle Malkin and Sean Hannity's version of America.Listen to,as I'm sure you do,Rush and the oh so golden microphone.Bye bye now.

Nothing is more disgusting than viewing this site?

So what are you doing here. Are you a masochist? John H Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it. --Mark Twain

FYI Douglas ....

As I've said (repeatedly), I'll be voting for Obama, despite the best efforts of the delusional Clinton haters on the left.

As far as the other websites where you feel I "would be more comfortable", that must just be a little communication error. Not the names of the websites, but your underlying assumption that I give a shit what you think in the first place. Hope that clears that up for ya.

BTW - Psssssst ........ You may want to take "telecom spying" off your list.

"Bye bye now"

Maggot Neva Stolz a.k.a. Y(es)man Trollboy

You screwed up trollboy. So you are operating under two nom de plume - Neva Stoltz and Yman. We all knew you were a Republican plant. Maybe now Mark Karlin will scrutinize this board more carefully to get rid of the Republican riff-raff. Aren't you here to distract us?

What are you talking about, Norm?

I have no idea who Neva is. And waiting 10 days to respond to a post?

You don't have to be scared of me, Norm.

;)

Can the Repugnican followers.......

Neva Stoltz is nothing short of a tool. Why do these people waste their time coming to our boards to spew their BS. The republican party has been the most destructive thing this country has seen since The Great Depression!! Al Queda and the Japanese actions during the 1940's pale in comparison to the destruction that has been wrought by the party of Greed/Racism/Ignorance, thus stated because every policy they advocate is supported by one of those three components. So to Mr. or Mrs. Stoltz who states that we spew hate, let me justify your assumption. GO FEAST ON A BIG STEAMING PILE OF CORN AND PEANUT ENCRUSTED S*@T. You are nothing short of an enabler and we really could care less about your position or what you think of us. If you want to see real hate go talk to Rove, Delay, Gingrich, Cheney, Mark Foley with his closet full of little boys "underoos", Batman, Spiderman, Captain America, Im sure the entire collection is there. Just dont bother us anymore because we dont care what you think!!!

FEMALE DEMOCRATS FOR MCCAIN?! INSANE!

A Phoenix, AZ GOP-ER for 25yrs. up to 2004 & OHIO, ROVE, ETC., I was in the 'Outer Circle' of McCain 'friends' (Bloodsuckers& Hangers-on). On more than ONE occasion (7, actually), I saw INSANE MCCAIN at parties DISCREETLY SMACK HIS 'TROPHY WIFE' Cindy and force her to 'retire' to 'repair' her make-up. On MANY OCCASIONS, I watched him PUBLICLY & LOUDLY degrade Mexican Americans working his parties and cleaning up after drunken guests. It's an UNSPOKEN fact McCain has used his election campaigns TO LAUNDER AZ 'MOB' & BRONFMAN FAMILY MONEY. CINDY'S FATHER WORKED FOR THE BRONFMAN 'MOB' as owner of a BRONFMAN-gift Beer Distributorship. A Viet Nam vet '68-'71, I've heard a tape made by the North Viet Namese with MCCAIN ON IT TRASHING THE US. I have no idea if the tape was authentic, but I'm 196% CERTAIN one of my buddie from the period was TELLING THE ABSOLUTE TRUTH in his words describing his 3yrs. in the 'HANOI HILTON' 20ft. from MCCAIN! BOTTOM LINE?! ANY MAN WHO SMACKS HIS WIFE IN PUBLIC FOR ANY REASON DOESN'T GET MY VOTE. ANY MAN WHO ABUSES PEOPLE WHO ARE WEAKER BECAUSE HE CAN, DOESN'T GET MY VOTE. ANY MAN WHO LIES ABOUT HIS TIME AS A POW TO 'GET' ANYTHING, IS A BUM & DOESN'T GET MY VOTE!

I've heard a tape made by

I've heard a tape made by the North Vietnamese with MCCAIN ON IT TRASHING THE US. I have no idea if the tape was authentic....

McCain has admitted he made anti-American statements. Some hero.

John Harvey

Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it. --Mark Twain

Hillary supporters for McCain

Those former Hillary supporters who now feel they have to vote for McCain should just go ahead and join the Republican party. They are "republicrats" and they are on their way out. Please go ahead and vote for McCain, BUT please cease infiltrating MY party for the purpose of causing damage. That's what you're doing. That's the republican way. After all, republicans HAVE to cheat and slime...they are republicans...party of dirty tricks...can't seem to win without cheating and sliming. You have my deepest sympathy.

Hillary Supporters for McCain

I think many of the people Limbaugh recruited to try to get an opponent the Republicans could beat.

John Harvey

Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it. --Mark Twain

Choices!

We have choices either McCain and the CORPORATE CONTROLED MEADIA or OBAMA and the CONSTITUTION and BILL of RIGHTS, so make up the mind last Two times you had Choices you went with RUSH LIMBAUGH the CHICKEMHAWK Bush and crime family the next time YOU PICKED the SWIFT BOATERS and Bush CRIME FAMILY, I figure this time that you will pick Rove(TURD BLOSSOM) and McCain, who me have any faith in your CHOICES, A very BIG NO HELL NO, Obams is scary BLACK MAN NO he is not BLACK ENOUGH. The CORPORATE CONTROLED MEDIA has already made the CHOICE for you, just look at the coverage you would think this was the REPUBLICAN conv.,with all of the REPUBLICAN talking heads on CNN, FOX sister station. Have we heard anything about RON PAUGH the angry REPUBLICAN that thinks McCain is another BUSH , of course not THE CORPORATE CONTROLED MEDIA has already PICKED McCain to sit in the White House come November just like they picked Bush, Rove (TURD BLOSSOM) for Eight long years. (CHOICES)

Hillary Bashing by Obama Supporters

This is why I will not support Obama. This Country does not need another President who works to divide people. The only thing Obama inspires in his followers is hate. After the hate filled, racist, sexist campaign Obama ran - why would any self-respecting woman vote for him? Obama supporters remind me so much of the Bush supporters. His supporters have nothing positive to say about Obama so they smear and degrade anyone who dared to run against him. I am not a Hillary Clinton supporter but the treatment she received from Obama and his supporters is disgraceful. Why do democrats eat their own? It is not Hillary's job to win supporters for Obama. It is his job. If he can't handle the job he doesn't deserve to be President!

What a lying sack of shite!

Lady if you are a Democrat then my dog is the Pope! Quit your lying and whining because all you got is another chimpy to vote for.

Republicans posing as democrats to divide the party

Why are you working to divide the democratic party? I know you are not a democrat - if you were you would defend your candidate. Looks like all you have is hate and insults. I am a democrat, phone banked for John Kerry. I never insulted people who disagreed with me. I gave them facts and talked to them like an adult. I guess if you don't have anything positive to say about your candidate all you have left is insults.

Tennismom is a Republican Troll

You and your fellow Republican trolls have done an admirable job for John McCain. As a card carrying Democrat I ask on behalf of all my fellow card carrying Democrats for you and your fellow trolls to leave this message board. Thank you and have a nice day.

Tennismom is a Republican Troll

Actually I am a democrat. I phone banked for John Kerry in the last election. I do however believe in right and wrong, integrity, ethics, etc. You cannot honestly say Obama has any of these traits. Neither does John McCain. Why is there such hatred from Obama supporters? Hate is all we have seen this election year. Almost all of it coming from Obama supporters. I am a Kucinch supporter. Now there is a man of integrity. I do have a question for you - do you agree with the way Hillary Clinton was treated? Do you see nothing wrong with smearing, demeaning, calling for violence against a women just because she dared run against a man? The democrats did this to her. I always defended the democrats - this year I can't. I believe if anyone is a republican troll it is people like you doing your best to divide the democratic party. You cannot make something better if you do not first admit there is a problem. I am pointing out the problem because I care about this Country. How about you?

Tennismom Troll

Well, if you really are a democrat who worked to elect John Kerry in 2004, as I did, your post and the post you did above it make no sense. Have you encountered dementia since 2004? There's no doubt the primary was hard fought, but if anything Senator Obama was slow to fight the Clinton smears against him, which we're now seeing being used by McSame. The idea that Senator Clinton was unfairly treated has little basis in fact, and the idea that any of that unfair treatment came from Obama or his supporters is truly ludicrous. No WAY, No HOW, NO McSAME!!! Obama 08/12

I CONCUR WITH JACKT51

If anything, Obama was been a real gentleman while Hillary Clinton used every dirty trick in the book including open racism to win the nomination. Even today Hillary has P.U.M.A. , a 527 group that stands for "Party Unity My Ass" that is against Obama. It's time to come together and bury the hatchet. My choice for president the last two cycles have been Dennis Kucinich. But Dennis will have a far greater voice in an Obama administration compared to zero voice in a McCain administration. That is just not hard to understand.

Thanks for the P.U.M.A. info ....

No one here has heard of them before, and also for explaining the acronym "P.U.M.A.". Phew! ........ If we didn't have you to explain these things, everyone would have thought you were talking about a sneaker.

I do like the part where you say Hillary Clinton "used every dirty trick in the book including open racism" ...................... right before you say "it's time to come together and bury the hatchet".

Yeah .......... that should do it.

BTW - You should let Hillary know that she "has" her own 527. Everyone else (including P.U.M.A.) thinks that they're an independent group.

Maggot McSame Y(es)man Republican Trollboy

Trollboy, you are getting to be so lame. I bet you can't even get it up for the old wife (not that she is interested in you anymore).

It always comes back to sex with you, Norm ....

........ wonder why that is? (Rhetorical question ....... the "why" is obvious).

"Can't even get it up for the old wife"? Sure I can ......... just ask her.

BTW - Not a very nice way to refer to your mother.

Maggot for McCain Trollboy Y(es)man

Last time I checked, I know who my father is and you're not my father, thank God! p.s. My father told me you should GFYS.

Never said I was your father, Norm.

Just that I could get it up for your mother ....... no small feat, to be sure.

BTW - Your father told you to tell me to GFYS? I don't believe you.

Not the part about "GFYS" ............. the part about you knowing who your father is.

;)

The absolute irrationality of Hillary supporters

I was not too keen on either Clinton or Obama. I've been a political activist for decades.
And... as is often the case in political primaries competing candidates make remarks critical of their primary opponents. The most hatred, invective and smearing of these candidates was that done by misanthropes who would never have voted for either. The most bitter, hatred generating, invective I observed and heard first hand, bordering on the hysterical, from either camp came from woman "claiming" that the Obama camp was running a sexist, racist(how stupid and irrational that)campaign. When I questioned women for specific examples, I got the rolling of the eyes, the condescending and patronizing (matronizing?) "if you can't see it, I can't explain it". This came more often than not from premenopausal woman. It would be a terrible set back for women if the ranting of this demographic gives even an iota of credibility to the demeaning and misogynistic derivation of the word "hysterical". Ladies,it's time to put away the Underoos, put on your grown up panties, AND STOP BEING AN EMBARRASSMENT TO HILLARY CLINTON. As a woman, Hillary had years of "traditional" (read chauvinism) male dominance to overcome. When you add to this baggage, the baggage of Bill Clinton it was too much. Without the specter of Bill Clinton in his constant "interfering" in a puerile, yet patronizing way, creating impression that Hillary Clinton could not "do it on her own merit". Ms Clinton very well could have been be making the acceptance speech.

Tennismom - for the sake of your children and grandchildren, smartin' up, grow up and set a better example for those children and grandchildren.

The Skeptical Cynic doth spake!

Santa knows when you are sleeping,
He knows when you're awake.
He knows if you've been bad or good.
Unfortunately, so does Bush,
Cheney, Rice, Mukasey, and...
the FBI, ONI, ASA, MCIA, CIA,
NSA, DIA, MI6, MOSSAD

Obama Did Not Smear Hillary...

...if anything, he handled the race situation by addressing it head-on. Show me one instance of racism or sexism to back up your claims. Just a guess: you might be a Republican? This self-respecting grandma is voting for Barack Obama! And he's nothing like that narcissistic warmongerer in the WH.

"Why would ny self-respecting woman vote for him?"

Well, do you consider Hillary Clinton to be "Self respecting"? She just gave one hell of a great speech emphaticaly explaining why self-respecting Democrats of whatever gender NEED to vote for Obama - She pointed out what I have been posting here all night, that anyone bitterly taking their ball and turning to McCain has clearly NOT been following her, but only some ego-based issues of their own.

I've never seen Clinton give such a great speech, and find my self greatly impressed. Perhaps I will vote for her for president in 2016, while you rudderless self-worshippers vote for Neil Bush or Newt Gingrich, or whatever right-wing Svengali manages to keep your bile running that long.

Why would any self-respecting women vote for him?

You didn't answer my question? Why would any self-respecting woman vote for Obama? What has he done for women's rights? Please don't tell me about his NARAL rating? They can't even give you a reason for their support of him. What has Obama ever stood up for? I am not a Clinton supporter, and even if I was, her speech for him would not make me vote for him. I do not drink Kool-Aid. I can think for myself. I cannot vote for a man who is a racist, sexist, liar, takes credit for work he has not done, and had no problem taking votes that were cast for Hillary. He is not honest and does not have integrity. I don't like John McCain either but he doesn't pretend to be something he isn't. Why do you insult someone just because they don't agree with you? It seems to be a common trait among Obama supporters. Can't argue facts so you insult.

Interesting. What DO you like?

Soccermom, I love an enigma. You hate Obama; you don't like Hillary; you don't like McCain. I would be interested to know where your broad brush of negativity ends; who are you planning to vote for, and what have they done for women's rights lately?

How do you spell Hypocrite?

You ask the question "Why do you insult someone just because they don't agree with you?" and yet you do nothing but insult Obama and his supporters. I am a woman and respect Barack Obama for who he is, what he has achieved as was touched on so eloquently by his wife Michelle last night, his world view, his balanced perspective on understanding the challenges surrounding racial issues, and many other things too numerous to mention. Clearly you do not like him and that is your prerogative. But please, your hypocrisy is staggering. And by the way, John McCain is doing nothing OTHER than pretending to be something he isn't. Up until now he has been a 'maverick outlaw" suddenly he is a God fearing conformist. Whatever.

Bartoshevich unfortunately represents ignorant white woman vote

What Ed Rollins, Wall Street Journal, Roger Ailes Faux News, KKKarl Rove, et al all seem to know is that there a hell of a lot of ignorant white women who are scared of having a Black as their president. The best thing Obama can do is surround himself with all his white relatives at every appearance he makes. Then all these ignorant white women will feel more comfortable with Barack Obama.

You HAVE to be kidding

Any woman who doesn't believe that Barack Obama has sufficient experience to become the President of the US is now to be considered ignorant and afraid of having a black as a president, right? Yes, this is certainly the party of inclusion and tolerance. This is precisely the problem that the party has had for over 30 years.

It's True!!!! Listen to Norm!!!

Absolutely!!! If you don't vote for Obama, you must be a racist!

He even made a video about it.

Maggot Y(es)man's children are Ignorant White People

Maggot, your wife really should have got abortions instead of having these children. These children are a reflection of you, their father, how retarded!

Typical Clinton-hater Response

You represent them well, Norm!

Maggot Y(es)man loves his ignorant children

My condolences Maggot Y(es)man. Hillary Clinton is not the issue, you as a Republican troll are the issue. Hillary whole-heartedly endorsed Barack Obama last night, so why would I or any other true Democrat on this message board have any quarrel with Hillary Clinton. You and your fellow Republican trolls are trying to stir up doubt and derision for Barack Obama. You are the enemy because you are a Republican troll. Hillary Clinton is one of us, not one of yours.

Norm, I love ALL ignorant children ....

I just love you a little more than all the others. ;)

All it took was an endorsement from Hillary to make her one of "you", Norm? Please. What use would she have for some extra-chromosome, seventh-grader who can barely form a sentence? On the other hand, I guess that means you take back all your "Skank Hoes for Hillary" language, the Monica blowjob jokes ("Hillary sucks worse than Monica. Just ask Bill",), the cigar jokes, etc.

So you welcome her with open arms, now? Wow ........ like they say, "Easier than your mother!" Hey! ..... I see the attraction, now. That 12-year-old humor is easy! ("Like your mother", hah!)

BTW - Never heard from Mark after you promised to have me banned. You really shouldn't do that. It's just embarassing when you watch someone make empty, impotent threats ("I'm gonna tell the teacher!!!"), Norm. In fact, it makes you look like a real ................ oh, what's that word, again?

It rhymes with "wussy".

Maggot McCain Y(es)man Trollboy

Trollboy, no one cares what you write, but Mark Karlin seems to have an open policy on Republican trolls. It's his website. I have no quarrel with Mark Karlin, do you? If he wants to keep Republican trolls on his message boards, then it is his right.

The comment wasn't directed at Mark's policy, Norm ...

It was directed at you and your penchant for making empty, little threats. I'm just letting you know, so you don't come off as a weak, whiney, sniveling pussy. Hey ......... What can I say? I'm just looking out for you.

BTW - "No one cares what you write"? Now come on, Norm .... you know that's a lie ..........

You care.

Maggot McCain Y(es)man

Maggot is what Maggot does. Face it maggot, you're a Republican troll and Mark Karlin tolerates you because he is an open minded guy.

"Maggot is what Maggot does"?

What the hell does that even mean, Norm?

The thing about Mark being "open minded" was pretty funny, though.

YOU must be kidding

Senator Obama has more elected experience than Sen Clinton and holds similar policy positions to her. Any white female supporter of Sen Clinton who thinks that Sen McCain is a better choice to fulfill her agenda IS at best an "ignorant white woman". That's giving her the benefit of the doubt.

"The party of inclusion"...

...does not have to accept narcisistic fascist moles who turn from the liberal meeassage of their pied piper Clinton to the self-contradictory garbage of corporatist John McCain, Get a grip.

Watch this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4EN7ibO1ec

You Go Dennis Kucinich!

Dennis was my choice for President. Too bad the corporatists control the Party and boxed him out. Just the same, this was a great speech!

traitor, tool, or token trick

Excellent editorial!!!! Whoever this young woman turns out to be, you can bet there some hired hands out there in Republican-land recruiting traitors, tools, and token tricks. This may end up working to our advantage: suppose that this whole Hillaryites for McCain thing is blown WAY out of proportion? Suppose that the demographic who is supposed to make up this 27%, women over 60 and over 65, are not stupid fools who squandered their whole lives fighting for their rights only to get mad in their old age and dump the whole endeavor? Then, suppose that Hillary gives an absolute knock-out speech tonight. Will the forces who conspire to impose their OWN reality on us really stand a chance against REALITY? Reality is we are going to create an enormous landslide of gigantic proportions because, guess what, we really ARE united. Believe it.